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Brazilian V8-60 OHV

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fairlane2k, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. fairlane2k
    Joined: Oct 7, 2004
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    fairlane2k
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    from Oregon,USA

    In regards to the Brazilian V8-60 based OHV....

    I have technical information regading this unique engine. (it's more than an OHV conversion!)
    These engines and parts have become VERY hard to find,
    I have been collecting pieces for awhile now,and finally have enuf parts to justify the shipping costs.
    They will be arriving sometime in Jan.2005
    I will keep what I need for my project,and sell the extras.

    I have LOTS of photos of the engine and parts, but the attacment limit is too small to post here,
    feel free to e-mail if you are interested.

    the display engine shown below belongs to a good friend of mine...enjoy

    James

     

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  2. lakes modified
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    So tell us more. were in Oregon are you??. i wanna go peak at the one you show. Bill S.
     
  3. fairlane2k
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    Lakes,
    I am in Portland.
    un-fortunatley you cannot "sneak a peek" at this display motor....unless you want to go to BRAZIL.
    That engine belongs to a friend of mine in Brazil,who has been helping me to locate parts.
    When I get mine here I would be glad to have you visit and inspect it.
     

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  4. Cool, I didn't think they where so rare as they came stock on Simcas (whatever they where called in Brazil)
    So why isn't it "just" a OHV conversion?
     
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  5. fairlane2k
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    Christian,
    True hey came stock on Simcas, but that was 34yrs ago (last ones built in 1970)
    And there are not too many auto salvage yards in Brazil,so most have been recycled for the metals....
    More than on OHV conversion, because they have a unique engine block, NO exhaust ports,and a re-enforced crankshaft main line,and of course passages to oil the rocker arms.
     

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  6. sodbuster
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    check your PM's.

    Chris Nelson
    Kansas
     
  7. Blownolds
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    THAT is simply bitc*in', so to speak.

    I'm gonna stick that in the "coolest V8" thread.
     
  8. Hmmmmmmm..I'm Brazilian and I have family throughout the country...
     
  9. JohnnyB327
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    what are ya plannin on puttin it in?
     
  10. Flat Ernie
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Hmmmmmmm..I'm Brazilian and I have family throughout the country.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    So what are ya waitin' for - start importin' those suckers! [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
  11. Believe me the wheels are turnin here....Just talked to my mom because i never heard of these cars before,,and she said oh yeah!! those were from the 50's..I use to date a guy with a Simcas in the early 60's... I didnt want to know anymore about that one...hahaha...Yeah my uncles and cousins live in and around Rio..man theres got to be alot of this stuff sitting around!! hmmm....
     
  12. fairlane2k
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    JohnnyB,
    I truely havent decided yet what I will use it in....
    I saw a company in Oregon City make a 3/4 scale deuce roadster...thought that would be cool. or maybe ???
     
  13. lakes modified
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    lakes modified
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    fairlane2k: sounds good to me. put me on your list when you get the stuff up here. are you going to the swap meet/car show at the Expo this comming week end?. if so , maybe we could meet each other some where in all that rusty stuff??. those engines really look cool.
    Bill S.
     
  14. fairlane2k
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    fairlane2k
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    from Oregon,USA

    Bill,
    I was planning on going to look around. Shoot me an e-mail this week and we can plan on meeting up...
    James
     
  15. fab32
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    That company that makes the 3/4 scale Deuce built one with a V8-60 and it was perfect scale for the car. the last time I checked their website there were no pictures of it as they had built a new one with a OHV 4 banger. As far as I'm concerned you couldn't beat the looks of the V8 60 powered one. One with the hemi head conversion would be over the top.

    Frank
     
  16. Phil1934
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    If you can't find a steel car, there's www.chuppshotrods.com with the 3/4 '32 roadster, www.gibbonfiberglass.com with a Model Y sedan or 3W coupe, and www.usbodysource.com with a Bantam sedan/coupe. The Y is well accessorized with bumpers,w/s frame, hood and repro frame, but production is only when enough orders are taken. For a narrow front axle I'd consider a cut down version of Worm's air bag axle. (Check www.cenpen.com) so you don't lose the ride with a real short leaf spring. www.roadsters.com can supply a narrow axle. However if you want to display the engine you may want to check out the Bantam and no hood. If you are hunting steel, there's a Bantam roadster in the HAMB classifieds now. But sit crossways in your hall and imagine driving, take a few measurements, then look at these options. You will probably want to bump out the flat firewalls like a '34 does to gain some leg room.
     
  17. Flat Ernie
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    If you want a cool 3/4 scale car, consider the British Model-Y. It looks like a 3/4 scale '34 Ford Tudor!
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  18. RPW
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    A few pics from the net of the Brazilian OHV version of the Chrysler Esplanada engine.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    A quick search on the Internet and I found a few cars for sale so I guess that it possible to find those cars down there for the right money...

     
  19. Blownolds
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    ??????? That Esplanada engine looks suspiciously like the Simca engine....
     
  20. metalshapes
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    [ QUOTE ]
    ??????? That Esplanada engine looks suspiciously like the Simca engine....

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I am pretty sure Chrysler France and Simca were connected.
    There was some Badge engineering going on in the '70s or '80s...
     
  21. metalshapes
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    And the perfect car for that Engine would be the Simca 5.
    A licence built Fiat Topolino...
     
  22. RPW
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    For sure, they were connected!
    First the Ford Vedette (the "mini-Merc", first developed by Ford in the USA in the 40´s, but never produced in the USA). Ford Vedette did change name to Simca Vedette 1955 as Ford of France changed ownership. Later the production discontinued in France and the production was moved to Brazil, renamed as a Chrysler as Simca was purchased by Chrysler. After a few years of production the flathead was modified into an ohv (for hottest model, the Esplanada GTX). The ohv engine was produced until 1969, the Chysler Esplanda was then replaced by the 1969 Dodge Dart, produced in Brazil between 1969-1982!
     
  23. Crestliner
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    I bought a 59 Simca engine just to save it from the crusher. It looks alot like the flathead 60 with modern dizzy and water pump.
     
  24. Blownolds
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    So when did they start using that killer OHV setup?
     
  25. fairlane2k
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    fairlane2k
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    1st year for the OHV engine was 1966.
    the OHV was an optional engine.
    100hp & 112hp flathead V8-60's were the base engines
    Simca said they spent $1 million dollars and a year to develop it.
     
  26. Blownolds
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    Did these cars ever make it to Mexico in any big numbers??
     
  27. fairlane2k
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    fairlane2k
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Did these cars ever make it to Mexico in any big numbers??

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I seriously doubt any of them made it to Mexico...that'd be one hell of a road trip!
    they wern't built in big numbers, less than 700 in 1969,the last year of production.

    then they changed to production of the dodge dart w/318 engines.
    for some reason, Chrysler wasnt too happy building FORD flatheads!
    the darts had a pretty cool nose section...I will try to dig up a pic.

     
  28. simca
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    Cadillac Marcus: (guest)
    With reference to your post of 10/10/04:
    Please contact me at apohaqui@nbnet.nb.ca regarding sourcing and purchase of Brazilian Simca V-8 engine parts.

    Thank you
     
  29. LOWBLAZERO1
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    holy old fucking thread! and spam for a first post, too. you sir hit the trifecta!

    :rolleyes:
     
  30. anteek
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    let's keep this near the top. I'm a scrounger and my contacts in Brazil struck out. One guy there said he's never even scene one. of course he was born after they were built.
     

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