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Old 05-02-2012, 05:33 PM   #1
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Default Ethanol - How are you dealing with it?

I'm getting pretty good and rebuilding my carb every season or so, but it is getting old. Anyone found a pour-in additive that they like or found a carb kit that will hold up better to the ethanol mixed fuel. I run an Autolite 2100. At least it is still cool yet and I don't have to deal with the boiling of fuel, but one thing at time.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ethanol - How are you dealing with it?

Another option (though a tad more expensive) is to go to the local small airport and get some 100 low lead. No ethanol in it, great octane, and is fine to run if you can afford it. Some of us use it in snowmobiles, atv's, chainsaw etc.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:48 PM   #3
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I use Startron. It's good stuff.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:00 PM   #4
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Default Re: Ethanol - How are you dealing with it?

Luck would have it, We have a station that sells Midgrade w/5% eth. and Hi-test w/0% eth. Less than 3.85 gal. Keeps all of my vehicles run great (even the lawnmower)and better gas milage. Even when it was over $4 a gallon I still bought it. Look around your town
gatta be somebody there that still sells the good stuff.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:10 PM   #5
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Default Re: Ethanol - How are you dealing with it?

I don't have a problem with it other than when I got out in the sticks and can only find low or mid grade. Then it is an octain problem and not an alcohol problem.

For the autolite carb there may be a Holley branded kit that will work.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:40 PM   #6
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In some parts of the country, we have no choices. We use ethanol because the state was paid off to believe it was better. Use WD 40 on the new carb gaskets, then you can reuse them again and just clean and blow out the orfices. In the fall, us a bottle of Stabile to treat the gas and run the motor long enough to get it up in the carb.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:49 PM   #7
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Sta-Bil for ethanol based fuels or their marine stuff. I think its blue instead of the normal red and seems to help. You can run it all the time without issues.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:50 PM   #8
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used it for the past 15 years in everything never had an issue
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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I a void it !!
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:59 PM   #10
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Luck would have it, We have a station that sells Midgrade w/5% eth. and Hi-test w/0% eth. Less than 3.85 gal. Keeps all of my vehicles run great (even the lawnmower)and better gas milage. Even when it was over $4 a gallon I still bought it. Look around your town
gatta be somebody there that still sells the good stuff.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:08 PM   #11
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You need to keep the tank as full as you can, that eliminates space for the alchohol to use to accumulate moisture and when storing you need an additive such as Stabil or the like.....
If the carb is run dry that is the start of trouble, it dries to a white-concrete hard residue in the orfices and plugs up every hole.....
the farmers around here got an early in at bying shares in the local Alchohol plant and are cleaning up on both that end and the refinining aspect as well....... a point of interest is that in the production process there is a side product that is produced that is also captured for resale.....
C02,yep the stuff in our welding gasses,and a pnuematic propellant gas, in industry and even in the soda dispenser at the local McDonalds
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:38 PM   #12
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This is some good shit. If you've been using gas for a while, the ethanol breaks down deposits that line your tank. They then go through your fuel system. This product removes the deposits. I use it religiously. Every other fill up. NAPA sells it. It cost a bit... $25, but it WILL work.

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Old 05-02-2012, 07:44 PM   #13
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I think that hotrodcarbs.com has some parts that are ethanol friendly.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:47 PM   #14
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Here is a website you may be interested in: http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:05 PM   #15
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Haven't had any problems with it, we've had it here for over 20 years.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:27 PM   #16
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I use Startron. It's good stuff.
the Lucas Ethanol stuff isn't bad either.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:38 PM   #17
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For the carburetors on my own cars and trucks, I have recalibrated all of the carburetors and use leather accelerator pumps in the carburetors (none of my personal carburetors have diaphragm type pumps).

I have tried several different gasoline additives, and have personally found no benefit in using any of them. Note: I said personally, not badmouthing the additives; if you like them, use them.

For storage (over the winter) I like to fill the fuel tank. In the spring, I fill the carburetor(s) with fresh fuel through the carburetor bowl vents, remove the air filter, and start the engine using ether. The fresh fuel in the carburetor will last long enough to get the engine hot, and it will then burn the stale fuel.

Using the above techniques, I have no issues (except reduced fuel economy) with my carbureted vehicles.

The fuel injected vehicles with no modifications ALL experience anywhere from 15~20 percent decrease in fuel economy but they run great. Fuel injection professionals tell me this is due to the false signal generated by the O2 sensor causing the computer to create an overrich mixture.

My real issues occur with small aircooled engines ie, chain saws, weed eaters, lawn and garden tractors, etc. I am terrible with small engine carbs, so have not modified any of them. All makes exhibit loss of power with E10 vs gasoline. And it seems to be heat related. Many of them miss or even stall at ambient temperatures over 90 degrees F. This may be a good thing at my age "honey, the weed eater won't run, its too hot, I think I'll come sit in the shade"! I use the same storage and starting techiques with the small engines with out stale gas issues. The issues come later in the summer when the heat hits.

Edit: and I change fuel filters more often than I used to change them.

My experience, others will differ.

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Old 05-02-2012, 08:39 PM   #18
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Rebuilding carbs every season may not be fuel quality related.
In any case, just separate the alcohol and swallow it.
Both your engine and brain will be buzzing and you keep supporting the corn producing states at the same time - win, win !
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:40 PM   #19
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Buy you gas at a Native American Indian Reservation.....no Ethanol added or state taxes. Also Lucus makes an additive.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:50 PM   #20
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What's this "ethanol" of which you speak?



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