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NealinCA · 07-05-2006, 11:27 AM

I bought a HF bead roller a couple of months ago. I was trying to figure out a stand for it when Paul, posted this...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=100759

I basically copied what he did then added a little turn of the century "style".

Here is what I got from Harbor Freight for $99...

Not only did it need to be strengthened, it needed some style...

...and a base (tractor wheel weight and a 30's Ford truck torque tube).

I cleaned up an old wood rimmed steering wheel that was hanging on the wall, added a little paint, and ended up with this...

Here is the backside with extra die storage (again copying Paul's design)...

And the modifired brass tag from an old orchard sprayer...

I like old tools just about as much as Hot Rods, so now it will fit in with the rest of my old junk.

Neal...inCA

PDX Lefty · 07-05-2006, 11:29 AM

Great Job!

**nate** · 07-05-2006, 11:30 AM

very cool!

rustfarmer · 07-05-2006, 11:39 AM

Too cool!!!

LIMEY · 07-05-2006, 11:41 AM

Very nice job Neal.......the time you spent was worth it, i think it would look right at home in Jack's museum & easily fool a few people!

Does it work as good as it looks?

Kev.

stan292 · 07-05-2006, 12:14 PM

Neal -

Great job - a beautiful piece! Got a question though.

I was just looking at one of those at the Harbor Freight outlet in Omaha last Monday. As long as you are adding all the additional strengthening and support pieces, would it be OK to go ahead and cut the "throat" a few inches deeper? It looked to me like that might be possible.

Flathead Youngin' · 07-05-2006, 12:17 PM

VERY cool!

Johnny1290 · 07-05-2006, 12:17 PM

That is completely over the top and sick! I love it!

**arkracing** · 07-05-2006, 12:26 PM

Awesome!!

2 questions

#1 - what was your thinking when you put the square tubing on the back side? - did you not have faith in the flat plate "designed" part - I would almost think that that would have been enough to strenghen it up

#2 - any reasoning to having the square tube on a right angle to the stand instead of a little lesser of an angle to further eliminate the possibility of flex (i know with the designe part of your stand it would have been hard to do this.)

Nice work

But as asked above - How does it work???!!!

SinisterCustom · 07-05-2006, 12:49 PM

Looks cool Neal. I too made one after droping off some parts to Paul and seeing his. Mines not nearly as fancy as yours but it works very well.
I'll snap a pic when I get home. I do need to find a wheel to replace the handle that comes with it.

Slide · 07-05-2006, 12:50 PM

arkracing... the biggest problem that many people have with the strength of the HF bead rollers is that the upper- and lower parts of the frame tend to flex back-and-forth, not really spreading vertcally. I have one of these, and that's exactly what happens. So you need to stabilize the HORIZONTAL movement of the frame more than the vertical. I didn't have any square tubing on-hand to beef mine up, so I used heavy angle iron, which was a 95% cure...

Also, having a wheel instead of a crank handle makes it possible to use this thing by yourself. Nearly impossible with just the crank thact comes w/ the HF unit.

Nice job, NealinCA!

**arkracing** · 07-05-2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slide

arkracing... the biggest problem that many people have with the strength of the HF bead rollers is that the upper- and lower parts of the frame tend to flex back-and-forth, not really spreading vertcally. I have one of these, and that's exactly what happens. So you need to stabilize the HORIZONTAL movement of the frame more than the vertical. I didn't have any square tubing on-hand to beef mine up, so I used heavy angle iron, which was a 95% cure...

Also, having a wheel instead of a crank handle makes it possible to use this thing by yourself. Nearly impossible with just the crank thact comes w/ the HF unit.

Nice job, NealinCA!

ok...that makes more sense to me now...thanks

atch · 07-05-2006, 01:09 PM

ok, neil, the one thing i see that you didn't spill is the great little adjustment wheel that you replaced the bolt with. what did it come from?

very cool piece...

Slag Kustom · 07-05-2006, 01:12 PM

love the looks of it. now im going to have to buy a new one to make it look as good. when i fixed mine i was in a rush to use it and did not spend the time to make it look good.

Baron Von Mike · 07-05-2006, 01:17 PM

You are right, it will fit in with the rest of your very cool shop. Nice job.

Levis Classic · 07-05-2006, 01:24 PM

Looks good - now make me one!

joeycarpunk · 07-05-2006, 01:30 PM

Nicely done, looks great.

NealinCA · 07-05-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atch

ok, neil, the one thing i see that you didn't spill is the great little adjustment wheel that you replaced the bolt with. what did it come from?

very cool piece...

I was going to make one, but I found this in McMaster Carr...

http://www.mcmaster.com/ctlg/DisplCt...26848747042946

Part #6403K42, 2-3/4" Solid Diecast Hand Wheel, slightly modified. They must have just went up in price, because it was only $5 when I bought mine.

Glad you all like it. I have yet to do any "real" projects, just test panels so far. Seems to work good...I just need to practice!

Neal

**Ted H** · 07-05-2006, 03:55 PM

Neal,
What a timely tech post !Just got HF sale brochure in mail today and am headed to town tomorrow to buy one for use in building the floor in my channeled A Tudor.
I've seen several posts on the HAMB on how to strengthen the HF roller but most look pretty cobled up. You did it with the style of the true Arteest !
Thanks, Ted

1FATGMC · 07-05-2006, 04:49 PM

That is really great looking and engineered really well. I've had one for over 2 years and am getting close to using it. I think I'll copy some of your ideas before then.

I took the liberty to lighten the one picture up so it is easier to see all that you have done to the back side. I like how you made a place to put all the dies.

Thanks again,

Sum

07-05-2006, 11:30 AM	#3
nate Alliance Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Greater Metropolitan McLouth, KS, Posts: 2,169	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... very cool! __________________ speedstock

07-05-2006, 11:39 AM	#4
rustfarmer Grenade Inspector Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 153	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Too cool!!!

07-05-2006, 11:41 AM	#5
LIMEY Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sucksville, UK. Posts: 1,990	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Very nice job Neal.......the time you spent was worth it, i think it would look right at home in Jack's museum & easily fool a few people! Does it work as good as it looks? Kev. __________________ "If the good lords willin & the creeks don't rise we'll see ya afore long" Hank Snr

07-05-2006, 12:17 PM	#7
Flathead Youngin' Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 3,568	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... VERY cool! __________________ Yeah, it's mustang 2'd, 350, 350, 9 inch, pro-streeted, mini-tubbed.......pretty cool, huh?

07-05-2006, 12:17 PM	#8
Johnny1290 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,277	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... That is completely over the top and sick! I love it! __________________ "The light was yellow, sir"

07-05-2006, 11:27 AM	#1
NealinCA Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascadero, Calif., USA Posts: 2,050	Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... I bought a HF bead roller a couple of months ago. I was trying to figure out a stand for it when Paul, posted this... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=100759 I basically copied what he did then added a little turn of the century "style". Here is what I got from Harbor Freight for $99... Not only did it need to be strengthened, it needed some style... ...and a base (tractor wheel weight and a 30's Ford truck torque tube). I cleaned up an old wood rimmed steering wheel that was hanging on the wall, added a little paint, and ended up with this... Here is the backside with extra die storage (again copying Paul's design)... And the modifired brass tag from an old orchard sprayer... I like old tools just about as much as Hot Rods, so now it will fit in with the rest of my old junk. Neal...inCA __________________ "We have had years to perfect our interpretation of the traditional rod..." bobbleed

07-05-2006, 11:29 AM	#2
PDX Lefty Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 516	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Great Job! __________________ Using the internet is like having sex with a stranger, you need virus protection! My car is like my wife's tit's, you can look but don't touch.

07-05-2006, 12:14 PM	#6
stan292 Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Firth, NE USA Posts: 828	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Neal - Great job - a beautiful piece! Got a question though. I was just looking at one of those at the Harbor Freight outlet in Omaha last Monday. As long as you are adding all the additional strengthening and support pieces, would it be OK to go ahead and cut the "throat" a few inches deeper? It looked to me like that might be possible.

07-05-2006, 12:26 PM	#9
arkracing Alliance Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 866	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Awesome!! 2 questions #1 - what was your thinking when you put the square tubing on the back side? - did you not have faith in the flat plate "designed" part - I would almost think that that would have been enough to strenghen it up #2 - any reasoning to having the square tube on a right angle to the stand instead of a little lesser of an angle to further eliminate the possibility of flex (i know with the designe part of your stand it would have been hard to do this.) Nice work But as asked above - How does it work???!!! __________________ '33 Ford Pickup - In desperate need of a "traditional overhaul"

07-05-2006, 12:49 PM	#10
SinisterCustom Old School HAMBer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roy??? Wa Posts: 7,132	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Looks cool Neal. I too made one after droping off some parts to Paul and seeing his. Mines not nearly as fancy as yours but it works very well. I'll snap a pic when I get home. I do need to find a wheel to replace the handle that comes with it. __________________ Pinstriping by Josh *"No Quarter"*

07-05-2006, 12:50 PM	#11
Slide Old School HAMBer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Crandall, TX Posts: 2,979	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... arkracing... the biggest problem that many people have with the strength of the HF bead rollers is that the upper- and lower parts of the frame tend to flex back-and-forth, not really spreading vertcally. I have one of these, and that's exactly what happens. So you need to stabilize the HORIZONTAL movement of the frame more than the vertical. I didn't have any square tubing on-hand to beef mine up, so I used heavy angle iron, which was a 95% cure... Also, having a wheel instead of a crank handle makes it possible to use this thing by yourself. Nearly impossible with just the crank thact comes w/ the HF unit. Nice job, NealinCA! __________________ Just because you can doesn't mean you should. www.mikeshoaf.com

07-05-2006, 01:09 PM	#13
atch Old School HAMBer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbia, Missouri Posts: 2,712	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... ok, neil, the one thing i see that you didn't spill is the great little adjustment wheel that you replaced the bolt with. what did it come from? very cool piece... __________________ atch (Mike Atchley) <>< MO hambers - join Missouri H.A.M.B.ers

07-05-2006, 01:12 PM	#14
Slag Kustom Old School HAMBer Join Date: May 2004 Location: northern new jersey Posts: 4,158	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... love the looks of it. now im going to have to buy a new one to make it look as good. when i fixed mine i was in a rush to use it and did not spend the time to make it look good. __________________ cars,bikes,booze and broads the rest of all my money i pissed away

07-05-2006, 01:17 PM	#15
Baron Von Mike Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Francisco East Bay Posts: 901	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... You are right, it will fit in with the rest of your very cool shop. Nice job.

07-05-2006, 01:24 PM	#16
Levis Classic Old School HAMBer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 3,984	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Looks good - now make me one!

07-05-2006, 01:30 PM	#17
joeycarpunk Old School HAMBer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: MN,USA Posts: 3,401	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Nicely done, looks great. __________________ "You're either part of the steamroller or part of the pavement".

07-05-2006, 03:55 PM	#19
Ted H Alliance Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Salem, Or., USA Posts: 248	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... Neal, What a timely tech post !Just got HF sale brochure in mail today and am headed to town tomorrow to buy one for use in building the floor in my channeled A Tudor. I've seen several posts on the HAMB on how to strengthen the HF roller but most look pretty cobled up. You did it with the style of the true Arteest ! Thanks, Ted

07-05-2006, 04:49 PM	#20
1FATGMC Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SE Utah Posts: 66	Re: Tool Tech: Another HF Bead Roller Stand... That is really great looking and engineered really well. I've had one for over 2 years and am getting close to using it. I think I'll copy some of your ideas before then. I took the liberty to lighten the one picture up so it is easier to see all that you have done to the back side. I like how you made a place to put all the dies. Thanks again, Sum Attached Thumbnails __________________ Lakester Construction 1FATGMC

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