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Hot Rods Any 1933 Ford Victoria experts in the House ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by L B, Mar 25, 2024.

  1. L B
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    E1BC8D3D-250F-4C9D-82DD-DE96C2043CB8.jpeg I acquired this set of window garnish years back. Since I’m more of a Deuce fan, the mouldings hung in the corner for 20 years.
    Maybe for a Victoria but not sure as the rear window moulding is suspect in design and painted black unlike the other mouldings.

    Any 33 aficionados to help figure out what they fit ?
    Thanks Hambers !
     
  2. alchemy
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    I can’t think of any 33’s with a square top to the front window, except for a woody or a cabriolet. And neither of those uses window moldings similar to the other closed cars. Got me stumped.

    Those rear sides do look like they could fit a 33 vicky though.

    The back molding looks like the sides flare out weird. Might just be the photo angle. Any weld marks you can see on the back?
     
  3. theHIGHLANDER
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    Isn't there a dip in the center on a 33/4? I think all Vicky models were dlx. If I had to guess I'd almost say 32 but the "front" of the big mldgs aren't heavy enuff. The rears look right for either, almost. The hard corners are a head scratcher, not 33/4 but not 32, totally. I need to scam out one of my V8 books to be certain if they're even Ford.
     
  4. L B
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    6158C7BF-831A-4C62-AFB8-A217A59C773A.jpeg If you are stumped as I am , we can make it more challenging with old black felt pen writing on one of the door garnish.
    “33 C 400”
     

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    The rear looks like a 33,34 Coupe with the squared off bottom corners.Sedans are rounded. The 1/4 ones appear to be 33 Vicky. The other pair ,not a clue as front doors are radiused at the top front.Post these pics on FordBarn .The owner of The Ford Store in San Dimas has a 33 Vicky.Stop in and see Michael.

    Here is a pic of my 33 std tudor drivers side interior.The Vicky garnish would b nearly identical 33 Ford front headliner.jpg
     
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  7. big duece
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    Europe made '32 for the door garnish?
     
  8. alchemy
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    C-400 existed only in imaginations and hot rodders’ shops. Those are 33 moldings as 32’s had a flat to the profile where you rest your arm. Later in 34 is when the decorative side dip started.
     
  9. Deuce Lover
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    Euro '32 garnish is totally different than the USA.
     
  10. L B
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    1BD8B50D-C9CE-482E-9719-345831B36706.jpeg E0343DC2-AC42-4EE7-B492-EDC084325250.jpeg Here are a couple of shots of the rear garnish. Doesn’t appear to have been modified.
     
  11. theHIGHLANDER
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    I think they're 32. A little bigger than sedans, and if my searches are right the "fat" look at the front appears to be a separate part. A little stand up similar to the windshield side trims. The back window, wide with a more flat bottom. All of you Deuce closed car owners and experts can chime in to confirm or deny but I really think 32 victoria.
     
  12. alchemy
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    The black one is definitely modified.
     
  13. I think you have two Ford garnishes (the rear quarter windows) and three from other make(s) or (slight maybe) European Ford.

    The front windows do not match a US Ford door shape nor does the profile of the "belt" at the bottom. Likewise with the potentially rear window garnish.

    The rear quarters could possibly be from a Victoria. Measure the length and height and we will be able to tell you for sure.
     
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  14. Fordors
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    @theHIGHLANDER I don’t see the quarter garnishes being ‘32, the height to length ratio is off. ‘32 Victoria garnish mouldings would be around 1:1 1/2, 12” of height x 18” of length by rough estimate. I’m leaning toward the quarter garnishes being ‘33 but have no guess on the door or rear pieces.
     
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  15. Dave Mc
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    ??????? most likely mismarked, for Dodge Maybe ? :)
     
  16. L B
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    I measured the 1/4 mouldings and they are ;
    12.25 inch in height
    23.75 inch in length

    hope this gets us closer to the true story
     
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  17. L B
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    Thanks for the input guys. I’ll keep on researching on the subject.
    If I come to a conclusion, I’ll letcha all in on the outcome.
     
  18. I would suggest also posting this question (with the measurements) on Ford Barn since it looks like you've hit a dead end here.
     

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