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"Z"ing a frame

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by STEVE1103, Jul 25, 2007.

  1. How do you Z a frame?
     
  2. Evel
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    With a welder.. :D


    try the search button.
     
  3. Lobucrod
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  4. Rusty
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    you can very creative or make it simple.

    Straight up
    30 degree
    45 Degree
    or even make it out of four pieces of metal.

    Waht you got to remember is keep it simple. You are taking what you have presently and moving the whole set up (up) or (Down). I like to use imaginary lines or tape from point to point and then fill in the gaps.

    Hope this makes sense

    Rusty
     

  5. Kirk Hanning
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    After cutting the front frame stub off and welding it to the top of the remainder of frame, I would suggest "fish plating" the seam for added strength. This is when you add an extra piece of metal to the sides of the frame, bridging the the two frame rails.
    This type of reinforcement bracing is very common on heavy equipment.
     
  6. evilone0528
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    There is a good thread on the HAMB by BrianAngus.I think it the name of the thread is "early frame construction" or something along those lines.You should find all the info you need on it.Hope that helps!

    EVIL
     
  7. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    I Z'd the frame on my 67 Chevy pick up. Made one big 30-60-90 triagle and kept the trig simple. That way I would know how much I was dropping the truck in the end and how long my rails would need to be.

    A^2 + B^2 = C^2

    Hope you were paying attention in geometry!
     
  8. Kartsa
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  9. tdoty
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    By c-notching it?????????

    Sorry, couldn't resist! Yeah, the same techniques used to c-notch the rear of the frame in the above link could be used for a Z as well.

    Tim D.
     
  10. Dont forget the Sawzall!
     
  11. There was a really well done thread about a "non-traditional" chassis for a 49-50 Chevy done here, great pics and work. You might check it out.
     
  12. happy hoppy
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    here is what Nobu (chopstix) did to his 51 chevy.
    its Zed the hight of the frame rail.

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  13. ChevyGirlRox
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    What kind of frame are you working with?
     
  14. AstroZombie
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    heres that link

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150434
     
  15. Broman
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    I'd say this answer could vary as much as ask the "how do you chop a top?" question.

    Not trying to be an asshole (it just comes naturally).

    You need specific questions to get specific answers.


    I think there's an answer to thins in the tech section isn't there?
     
  16. Look up the Brian Angus post "How to build a hotrod frame" There are diagrams in there that show you how to cut the angles in the tubing.

    Alot of people just eyeball it out after deciding how much to raise the frame. But....using the diagrams in Brians post, If you know how high you want to step the frame, and know what degree of angle you want the Z, then you can use that info to determine exactly how long to cut the Slope piece. At what degree you need to cut the material to make the joint. You never see measurements on here on frame pics showing all the necc. info.

    Carl Hagan
     
  17. Kevin Lee
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    Ton of stuff in the Tech-o-matic too.
     
  18. I got it, step it up or down, will try it on a 54 F100 frame, going to try and make a truckster, Rod and custom Mag. STEVE1103
     

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