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Customs Your 364 nailhead experience

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  1. Donuts & Peelouts
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    What has your experience been with this engine and the dynaflow attached to it. What are any hidden secrets about this engine and how do you wake them up, even tho they are quite the powerful engine from the factory.
     
  2. Donuts & Peelouts
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    I thought this was cool when I was researching last week. Has anyone tried doing this.
     
  3. Gman0046
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    Back in the day as teenagers we swapped out a 264 engine out of 55 Buick Special with a 364 out of a 58 Roadmaster. Utilized a 37 big Buick floor shift transmission. Lots of fun was had with that old Buick.
     
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    Thanks for your post, sounds like fun.
     
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  5. 302GMC
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    Can't help other than telling you that I've seen 2 322 - 364 Buick bottom ends seize because the oil pump pickup fell off into the pan. They're bolted on with a couple 1/4'' bolts with no safety wire or tangs to bend. If your engine is out of the car, pull the pan & add some insurance.
     
  6. 302GMC
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    Donuts, Then what happened ???
     
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  7. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Wow, thanks. What would you add. Tang?
     
  8. Donuts & Peelouts
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    I don't get the question bud?
     
  9. Budget36
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    The rest of the partial story you posted above;)
     
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  10. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Hahaha, ok I'll try to find it guys.
     
  11. 302GMC
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    Drill the bolt heads for stainless wire.
     
  12. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Smart move, I added the whole story above
     
  14. Donuts & Peelouts
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    That was a good story.
     
  15. I had a 322 in a 47 Chev. With the Dynaslow, it was a POS off the line, but I installed a 3 speed manual, which brought it to life. I ran that engine hard, and even when I broke stuff, including a piston, the engine took it all.
    Lots of torque,
    I love Buick nailheads, and always wanted a 401.
    Bob
     
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  16. Do yourself a favor— don’t add any Tang. It’ll just make the oil taste funny, like astronaut pee
     
  17. VANDENPLAS
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    My 55 had the 364 with a 4 barrel and the Dyna flow
    Other then the tranny leaking from both ends it was a great car to drive with tons of power once you got going.

    not a cheap engine or trans but definitely a fun one
     
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  18. Donuts & Peelouts
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    @VANDENPLAS I've always swayed away from the nailhead because they are so expensive rebuild and not everyone can balance them correctly.
     
  19. jimmy959
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    Back about 15 years ago I had a 364 with a 2-barrel in my '61 LeSabre. The DynaFlow acted like a huge sieve, I'd pour in a quart of tranny fluid and a couple days later quart would run out onto the ground - until I had it resealed. Lots of torque, but not particularly fast. Great to cruise around in.
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  20. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Thanks Jimmy. One time I heard if your dynaflow ain't leaking it ain't working.
     
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  21. Donuts & Peelouts
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    What are the transmission adapter choices?
     
  22. Donuts & Peelouts
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    And what are the manual transmissions that will bolt up?
     
  23. I haven't played with Buick engines for a long time, but I used a 3 speed out of a 53 Buick. An Olds or Pontiac transmission from the same period will bolt up, but you would still need the pieces from a closed drivshaft manual transmission.
    The easiest way to convert, would be to watch epay for a Buick 3 spd. Converting to an open driveshaft is a big, expensive, job.
    Bendtsen’s Speed does offer a kit to adapt the Nailhead to the 700-R4, but this requires the conversion to an open driveshaft.
    Bob
     
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  24. belair
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    Manual trannys are tough for Buick fans. There are the 5 and the 6 bolt units. The 5 bolts go all the way back to at least 1937. They are sufficient for a straight 8, but even a 264 can break them if you try hard enough. The 6 bolts came behind the 322 and I guess 364 and maybe even the 401, and are much stronger. All the hardware is difficult to find, and the trannys shifting mechanism is not at all like the chevys and fords we are used to, so a floor shifter is a mess, as is trying to find a RARE aftermarket shifter or making your own. It's a shame that by 57 and on, sticks were so rare in Buicks, because they are so dadgum cool. The torque tubes just add another layer of difficulty when you try to upgrade the trans, so most of us are left with two choices-leave it alone and enjoy it for what it is, or do a TON of work to go with a stick or a modern auto. The only remotely simple solution is to use a switch/pitch th400 from the 60s, and I dont know how far back they will fit on nailheads. Or find a GS Rivi that had a 4 speed - good luck with THAT.
     
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  25. Gman0046
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    A 37 big Buick 3 speed floor shift transmission will bolt up to a 364. Biggest problem you will have is finding one. The buick stick shift bell housing, flywheel and cclutch fork will be almost impossible to find.
     
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  26. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Its hard being a Buick man, thanks everyone for all the advice. I appreciate everyone's time. I'm asking all this because I might be adding a 61 4 door lesabre to the pack.
     

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