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Projects YAWN.....YET ANOTHER BARN FIND DEUCE TUDOR (UPDATE 3 APR 2019)

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by hotrodA, Sep 20, 2014.

  1. wedjim
    Joined: Jan 1, 2014
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    wedjim
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    from Kissimmee

    I agree on the patina look. Get it running, get it stopping, some clear coat and maybe some rubber where needed, drive it and show it off!
    That would be awesome!


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  2. MAD 034
    Joined: Aug 30, 2011
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    from Washington

    Please don't chop it. Killer find buy the way!
     
  3. scotti32
    Joined: Jul 13, 2009
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    Looks like a solid body. Great start, will be watching
     
  4. Finally got the thing in the shop. Here are a few more pics of some of the pieces that came with it.

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    A pretty good start; I 've already found a few of the missing parts.
     
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  5. barett
    Joined: Jul 1, 2012
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    I love deuce sedans... I'd be looking to do something like Deluxe32's avatar... Congrats...


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  6. Nice! I've been really digging deuce tudors recently.... I want one!
     
  7. gonzo
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    Damn that is righteous.
     
  8. wedjim
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    from Kissimmee

    That is a solid start to a nice ride!


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  9. Thanks for the encouraging words.

    Right off the bat, I find what could be a problem. Somebody went to a lot of effort to box the frame and weld in this faux 32 front crossmember. Unfortunately, it's close but no cigar work. Frame width at the frame horns should be 23 1/4; looks 3/8" narrow to me.
    I guess cutting it out and putting in a Model A is on the things to do list.
    Might as well do something about those weird motor mounts that look like cutdown F-1's while I'm in there.
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  10. Wow.....just wow......

    All those goodies there to be played with........you are one lucky _______ (fill in the blank(you can use more then one word if need be)) !!!
     
  11. get to work,,,the All Deuce Run is just 8 months away...you can make it! :D HRP
     
  12. ^^^^^^LOL
    That IS good incentive, Danny.

    Actually, IF it would stay a highboy, it probably wouldn't matter.
    But getting a splash apron in there would probably be tough; stock radiator holes don't line up, either. Picking up the extra drop with the A crossmember would be a plus. WTH, wrong is just wrong.
     
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  13. Horns can pull in from boxing weld shrinkage. How does it check out everywhere else?
     
  14. Pewsplace
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
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    As stated above, don't measure at the front horns - measure across the center of the front crossmember to the outside rails per Wescotts drawing. The frame should be measured across the center line of the crossmember. I built a jig to hold the rails in the correct position prior to tacking the front crossmember.


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  15. Kiwi 4d
    Joined: Sep 16, 2006
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    I would vote for a look like HRPs deuce. No chop to enhance the old hot rod look. But you sure snagged a great start.
     
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  16. Thanks for the tips. That could well be the case. Frame width, through the crossmember C/L, is within 1/16" of the Wescott spec.
     
  17. Rusty
    Joined: Mar 4, 2004
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    I never get tired of these
     
  18. Thanks, might be a stretch for me to equal your and
    Danny's efforts, though. I'll use yours as visual teaching aids.
     
  19. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
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    Hard to build a Deuce wrong. I've had mine on the road over 15 years. It's been chopped 2 5/16" (long story as the the top is from another car to replace the crushed one that came on it). My friend Paul Beck, who did the chop, got it as close as he could to the 2" I wanted but the combined damage of the pieces wouldn't allow it to be any closer.
    Get yours on the road and start having more fun than the law should allow.

    Frank
     
  20. That front crossmember was bugging me, so I mocked up the stock radiator and grill, and laid up a hood side. 3/4" gap, so the crossmember will need the hole elongated. Still thinking that putting in an A piece would be the way to go. Better looking and an extra inch drop.

    Anyhow, here are a couple more pics, of the dash and the frame where the previous square tubing crossmember was whacked out by some torch wielding caveman. Think that I will trim out those boxing plates and clean it up. The other dash will take care of this one, which is salvageable.
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    Apologies for the pic quality; i-phone and poor lighting.
     
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  21. gonzo
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    Man what I'd give for those doors.
     
  22. ^^^^Thanks!
    Only some pitting inside in the very bottom. Tight hinges, with just a little sag on the driver side.
     
  23. modelamotorhead
    Joined: Dec 24, 2011
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    A defense for lowered lids and fenders 078 (2).JPG ...I rest my case..
     
  24. Pewsplace
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  25. Thanks for the inspiration!

    Beautiful cars for sure..
     
  26. Another problem rears its head:
    Looks like the motor (and mounts) are too high in the frame. I thought that there was more offset to the radiator/pump necks, with the pump a lot lower. Also puts the fan into the upper hose.
    Can one of you 32 experts verify and give me the correct offset amount?
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  27. And now another problem:
    Those straight hood sides...,....
    Mocked up the hood, it's not that the radiator is too far forward, it's that some dumbass trimmed the front edge of the hood side off!!! WTF, over??
     
  28. Anybody have any spec or advice on the motor mount height? Or is it cut and fit?
    Most pics appear to show the top of the biscuit at the top of the frame.
     
  29. thequietwon
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 600

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    I have a restored right hand drive chassis that is completely original with the original flathead & mounts in it...you are more than welcome to get any reference measurements you need from it. Also have a few bare original frames if you need measurement of of those.
     
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  30. 3wLarry
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    from Owasso, Ok

    Motion denied! Prosecutions closing argument...

    ...I'd lose the headlights and stanchions tho.

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