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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by teisco, May 12, 2009.
two sad moments- Monster Garage destroying an Anglia gasser & cutting up an
original FE Dragster.
You mean like the Chevy 2 door wagon in tool time he dropped a beam on????? It wasn't a Nomad, if you watch the doors pop open when it hit, it was, however a 2 door wagon.
here you go.
What about the 55 Chevy that rolled over in the drag scene for American Grafitti? The 57 Chevy that smashed it's way into the ending of "Catch me if you can" (The original..not with Tom Hanks) And the back glass that got shot out of that Judge in Dazed and Confused. And speaking of Indiana Jones, in the first scenes of all those 50's cars, mock up or not that get blown sky high by that nuke. The Monte Carlo that gets shot up in Training Day. The few Exotic cars that get scorched in Iron Man. There's so many..I believe I will sign up for PETA. The Ferrari in The Rock gets creamed. Of course the Challenger and Camaro in Two Fast Two Furious? The Charger in the first Fast and the Furious, the Monte Carlo in Tokyo Drift. Yes, it's sad and I usually have to look away
You're assuming quite a lot about me. All wrong. And that last paragraph? Like "shock art" for the HAMB... yawn.
W.T.F that hurts ......
That makes me really pissed off.
School sent me to L.A. for a month to build 3 '55 ford pickups for Stallone for an upcoming movie called The Expendables.
All chopped 3", shaved, and lowered. The main one for stallone was a frame off. New Everything!! Motor, trans, big brakes, wheels and tires, interior, glass, weather stripping, you name it. I was so jealous being that i own a '56. I was also sick to my stomach cuz not only were the other two that matched his going to be wrecked doing stunts but I helped build them.
I quit watching Monster Garage when Jessie James crushed a real nice original restored Ford Anglia that they had turned into a drag car. The build wasn't finished on time so out in the parking lot it went and a huge steel beam was dropped on it. Blown Hemi and all. I was so pissed that I couldn't talk. I have a friend building one of those for his girl friend and he is missing the grill and deck lid for one of those. Such a waste.
I agree, the Challenger was sweet in that movie.
Did anyone else notice that they created cheesy ill fitting window frames so the stunt girl could put the belts around 'em. Those cars didn't come with window frames....
Yeah I really try to ignore shit posts like that... but that post was uber stupid. I don't do this shit for the money.
I can't wait until they start using Hondas, Accords, and all the other ricer types, for demo derbies! Oh wait, they did make a few Fast and the Furious movies........
I haven't had time to read the whole thread but fwiw the ones they wreck are the most cobbled to gether POS cars that look good in a camera 50 feet away. If they wreck a GTO, you can be sure it's a 'clone'. They're rough as hell or kit cars when they can get away with it.
And frequently they're not even as wrecked as you may think, at least where the fireballs etc are concerned.
That's why they call them camera tricks.
Studios are guilty of overpaying actors, but not usually of overspending on vehicles to be wrecked. That's my experience anyway.
I saw some torinos for starsky and hutch movie and general lees for the movie, the non-hero cars are usually real turds. They've got one nice one for the closeups with actors and the rest are clunkers. JMHO
Yeah the Willys PU in the avatar is mine. Yup it's cheap to upkeep, cheap to maintain, but more importantly it's really fun to drive and I just like it. Plain and simple.
I've got other more HAMB friendly cars that are worth a bit more than the Willys (especially fully restored)... but I bought 'em because I like 'em. That's just the way my brain works.
Maybe I was a bit harsh to call your post "Uber Stupid" and I apologize for that, but it just didn't describe me at all.
The only reason I don't like seeing old cars smashed up is because you just don't see them anymore, and there's someone out there that would've probably got a real kick out of taking them to the strip, or cruising them in their hometown somewhere.
On the other hand movies wouldn't be as memorable if they all smashed up Yugos and Escorts. LOL.
I think car guys (and I could be wrong) get upset over the cars being smashed because the memorable ones that get smashed are given personalities by the film makers. The Bullitt fastback really looks like it's pissed off when it's chasing down that Charger, but it's really the camera angles, lighting, sound effects, and music.
Cooler cars typically equal cars that are worth money. Maybe that's where the confusion is. I just don't like to see cool cars smashed. Even if Steve McQueen's Mustang was only worth 200 bucks... I'd still feel the same way when I saw it smashed for the first time.
I have a neighbor whose brother worked on the T-Birds for Thelma and Louise, the movie company pushed four different cars off the cliff at the end to get the perfect angle.
Consider the scale of the budgets that are spent on a movie. A Hundred Million Dollars is common, and a Quarter Billion Dollars is not unheard of - check here - http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/allbudgets.php
At that rate, a nice car destroyed costs less that what they spend on lunchmeat for the camera crews. You could bust up a couple Hemi Cudas and hardly notice it on the bottom line. Cars are just set props to the movie makers, same as extras and the false front buildings they build to set on fire in westerns.
I'm curious about the Cobra that got crunched in Iron Man. I was obvious that it was bent sheetmetal, not fiberglass. Anyone know what it really was? A Kirkham maybe?
Ive heard that in street racing films eg. Fast and Furious studios are often pressured by lobby groups to show the horrible consequences of street racing so as to not encourage the youth to follow suit, they therefore write in the demise of very rare vehicles into the script to save us all from becoming dangerous citizens.
Plus sars blowing up just looks cool to non car people, they don't care, they just like seeing explosions,
I always groan when I see the 67 Chevelle SS396 get rolled in Carrie. It may have been a clone or some kind of special effect but it looks pretty real to me.
Quote :Hot rodders want speed. WHY? Because it costs a lot. It's a good way to show off your wealth and prowess
Umm, I don't know about you, but in my experience hot rodders want speed cos its a rush! The feeling of being pushed back in your seat, nailing the launch, feeling the back kick out a little as you bang through the gears and hearing the engine scream is an amazing feeling. Its a natural but addictive high,
I remember this commercial from about 6 or 7 years ago or so, where it was an angry wife getting back at her husband and crushing his cherry 50's cadillac. I just about lost it on that one.
I kind of also dont mind movies like deathproof and bullit, vanishing point, gone in 60 seconds etc because those cars are now forever immortalized for generations to enjoy. Those have some of the best car chases ever.
And I can definietely say its not about money for me. I just love old things period.
The other day while I was driving around LA in my little hotrod that I built with my own 2 hands,( and have about 7 or 8k into,) a brand new ferrari pulled next to us on the freeway and he was starting at my car! I thought that was the funniest thing ever. anyone with money can go buy a ferrari, but not everyone can build a hot rod, or has the patience for an old car.
It's definitely not a money thing for me. I just like driving my old truck because it has more character than late model stuff. I'm really proud of how little money I have tied up in it. I gave $15 for the truck in 1966, my brother-in-law gave me the 307 Chevy that's in it right now, did all the work myself. Now if I had to pay somebody else at minimum wage for the time I've spent on it, I'd be broke. It's not about the money, it's about cranking that windshield out as far as it'll go on a pretty day and opening the cowl vent ("Max Cool" setting on the Ford factory air). You turn the blower up by driving faster. I can't stand to see neat old cars shot up, blown up, or wrecked, not even in old movies that were made back when the cars were commonplace and you could buy good Model A's for $50 a copy all day long.
watch that episode of home improvement closely, it was actualy a 210 2dr wagon that got crushed
the last season of the dukes was done mainly with minitures as a cost cutting move, looked like crap and added to the shitty rating of the last season. the show was never the same after Tom and John left, and then came back.
I just want to say I have always bought/saved rough cars fixed them right and sold them usually to someone that didn't appreciate it and lost money on most of them just because I can't stand to see 'em go to waste. I'm still looking for, budget allowing, my dream car and one of the cars on that list is an Anglia. He's still on my shit list.
In the original Fast and Furious film, there was the 1970 Charger that absolutly got destoyed. It's horrifying to watch. Then in Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift, they had a Monte Carlo do ten or so flips.
I stopped watching Monster Garage when they demo-derbied an SS El Camino. They started with what looked like a real good one, built it and thrashed it in a figure 8 race. This is a first for me to see the Anglie being crushed. I have a field find Anglia stuck deep in the garage that I am happy to have and it is nowhere near as nice as the one they destroyed. Total stupidity and all done for ratings.
There are literally thousands of Dodge Chargers and '58 Plymouths that owe their restorations to the popularity of the Dukes of Hazzard and Christine. Yes, some cars were destroyed to film the shows/movie. But the popularity of the shows/movie is what prompted so many of the cars to be restored. So that is a plus.
By the way, none of the cars destroyed in Christine were actually Furys. I believe they were all Belvedere and Savoy 2 door hardtops. In fact, I think even the nice, closeup cars were Belvederes. '58 Furys were all buckskin tan with gold anodized inserts. In real life, Christine would have been a very odd special order.
There's a Three Stooges where they are firemen. Their chief gets a new 36 Ford Coupe. Beautiful car. They pretty much trash it in about 2 minutes. Sad if you love cars (as do I) but it the end they are all just things. They don't matter that much in the scheme of things. 100 years from now no one will know the difference.
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