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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by myjalopy, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. myjalopy
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    I have been is search of a set of front wide 5 Rocky Mountain drums for a long time.. these popped up a few weeks ago and I was able to grab them for my coupe... thanks to fellow H.A.M.B.'er, they showed up and I couldn't help but to take some pics of this project coming together... I don't know if Rocky Mountain brakes are the correct term for these drums but they kick ass... I had to modify a set of backing plates but spindles and drums did not have to be touched.. new set of 40 ford wheel bearings make them spin perfect... I need to do the finish welding and painting yet, but I'm pleased with the results.... [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


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  2. bct
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    nice. I just scrapped some cable type rears.
     
  3. Nice,please explain the modification to the backing plates.
     

  4. 302GMC
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    Rocky Mountain brakes was an option/aftermarket setup for Model T Fords.
    Have you thought about the road debris getting in there ?
     
  5. myjalopy
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    I had a set of 40 ford backing plates here that had already been chewed up... I cut some tubing to a 7/8" spacer... I machined up a new flange for the spindle and "wala"... tacked everything together and son of a gun it all laid out perfectly... as for getting road dirt in them, well I do have wide 5 hub caps, but they look to cool to cover up... no off roading without hub caps...


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  6. myjalopy
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    Also, looking for a matching rear set, if anyone knows where I could track down a set...


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  7. alchemy
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    What year are those, 36? Any numbers on them?
     
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  8. tubman
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    I really like that look! Good job!
     
  9. Fred A
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    We used the open drums on a '36 pickup about sixty years ago. My family was big on the Bendix brakes and found the deep offset '39='40 Zephyr front backing plates to be the simple solution. Those backing plates were not popular for hydraulic conversion until the later desperate times, before Bob Wilson offered his, wrongly called '39s. Don't recall if there were any fit issues, but free was the usual price for the deep backing plates and that was only a bit less than their actual value. Times change. Not being a fan of the Lockheed brakes, the offset rescue seems a tough solution. Good Luck: Fred A
     
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  11. 117harv
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    Are you running rears too?
     
  12. Weren't these standard 33/34 ?....have an axle or two with these....in Texas ?
     
  13. myjalopy
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    2 years ago at a local show, I found the rears that I have on my car in this picture... I paid $25 for the pair because we had no idea what they were... this older gentleman was tired of dragging them around so he wanted to unload them... I have no idea about them other that they are same dimensions as the 40 brakes that I'm using... the center bolt pattern is 5 on 5 1/2... [​IMG]


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  14. 33/34's are not wide 5 BP
     
  15. myjalopy
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    Rolled the car out of the garage for the first time with its new brake set up... going to take it out this weekend to try them out... over all happy with how they came out... IMG_1089.jpg IMG_1091.jpg IMG_1097.jpg IMG_1106.jpg IMG_1115.jpg IMG_1113.jpg


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  16. bct
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    wow . looks great
     
  17. trey32
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    Why are they called rocky Mountain brakes??
     
  18. gimpyshotrods
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    Extra cooling. Good for mountain descents.
     
  19. trey32
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    Thank you sir.
    Who's got extras to get rid of??!!
     
  20. That 68 prefix in the part numbers tells me the drums are from 1936 cars.
     
  21. Wheeliedave
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    You are correct but-----Henry did use "Rocky Mountain" Brake Drums on T's, A's, '32 through at least '34 Fords and it would seem until at least 1939.
    Has anyone seen any later versions?


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  22. gimpyshotrods
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    That is an important note, because 1936 spindles are a one-year-only item, and the parts that attach to them do not interchange with later stuff.
     
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  23. Wheeliedave
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    Thanks, Does anyone know if Henry used the Rocky Mt. Drums later than '36?


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  24. gimpyshotrods
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    Henry didn't use them. They were an aftermarket item.

    I can find no record of them being made after 1936, but I cannot say for sure. They appear to be out there, but the records of them seem to be a casualty of history.
     
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  25. waxhead
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    Sweet looking coupe
     
  26. myjalopy
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    What makes the 36 spindle stand alone... I had to turn up a .063 shim/ spacer to place behind rear wheel bearing to get a proper seat of the wheel bearings... these are 40 spindles.... they spin smooth as can be... so I guess I'm asking is it the length of the snout on spindles that make 36 different from later years... thanks for your input...


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  27. alchemy
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    Yes, the snout is different length on 36 spindles. Otherwise they are exactly like 35 spindles.
     
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  28. Hendee
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    Here's a pic of some rears And a front. Second pic is of 36 front and rears I'm converting to hydraulic. Will be using Lincoln deep front backing plates as described elsewhere in this post. That said I applaud the effort to modify the plates as you did to make the spindles and drums work as hydraulic. They do look cool when on a hotrod. As Indian Larry once said, " I like the mechanical-ness" of how the open drums look.
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