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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pat59, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. OK, Check out these pics. Someone has welded the brake drums to the axles. Yup. Ya got me? any thoughts? Think I can grind off the welds and save the axles? (I know the drums would be toast.) But I'd like to save the axles. Just when you thought that you've seen it all.

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  2. Neat !!!
    A good hole saw that's the right size would do nicely
  3. Chad_The_Sailor
    Joined: Aug 10, 2013
    Posts: 79


    Must of installed some life time guaranteed shoes lol!!!

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  4. Shaun1162
    Joined: Feb 22, 2010
    Posts: 809


    Call me crazy, but that's some awfully nice welding for guy that just welded a brake drum to the axle...
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  5. May have been an idiot, but he made nice welds.
  6. Maybe it's JB-Weld !
  7. tb33anda3rd
    Joined: Oct 8, 2010
    Posts: 15,392

    1. Connecticut HAMB'ers

    there is no reason to weld it on. are you sure it is welded? heat the drum and see if you can see a defined line.
  8. Keep
    Joined: May 10, 2008
    Posts: 662


    Smack the drum with a hammer, I bet the wheels had a nice contour that matches that "weld" Most likely it will fall off.
  9. Now there is an idea that I haden't thought of. Thanks for that. :)
  10. Mercuryv8
    Joined: Apr 26, 2013
    Posts: 17


    LOL thats what I thought too. The only thing I could possible think is the guy wanted the wheel to center on the axle not the lug nuts.... ah even as I type it it's crazy. Maybe he was drunk? But then he welds pretty good for a drunk....

  11. Mercuryv8
    Joined: Apr 26, 2013
    Posts: 17


    Is the other side welded too?
  12. I've scratched at it with a scribe. You can see the marks in the first pic. I pryed it with a large screw driver, wacked the drum with a 3 pound hammer. The drum flexes at the lugs but that's it. It's weld alright. And yea a nice clean job. LOLI just can't understand for the life of me why someone would do that. Any way I'll try the holesaw trick tomorrow on one side and see if that'll do it.
  13. Yea and as clean as a whistle too. Like one perfectly smooth pass. funny thing is it's got a teeny bit of undercut in some areas like it was stick welded. But it's as clean as tig.
  14. 1oldschool1
    Joined: Jul 9, 2011
    Posts: 194


    I swear I've seen that before.... i think its a type of situation that perhaps you need to remove the dif cover and release the axles from the dif. and the whole thing comes out together. The welds do seem suspiciously good for jus somebody to weld it up for some 'seems logical at the time" situation.
  15. I was thinking maybe for use as some type on farm or industry conversion thing. There were three push nuts on the lugs They were flat and locked the drum on. Guess they were put on first before the welding. Funny thing was i thought that they were what was holding the drums on tight so while prying/cutting them off I saw the weld, thought it was caulk at first. LOL
  16. 24riverview
    Joined: Jan 13, 2008
    Posts: 824


    Just my opinion, but not welded. Tapered area is part of the drum and just stuck on there that tight. Clean up axle hub, soak area down with rust penetrant of choice. Screwdriver between backing plate and drum prying out, then give it a good smack with the BFH.

  17. Too many welding fumes????
  18. JohnEvans
    Joined: Apr 13, 2008
    Posts: 4,883

    from Phoenix AZ

    Break out the oxyact and heat it up good where the "weld" is ,bet you a 6 pack it is not welded. Just rusted on .
  19. Steve!
    Joined: Sep 27, 2011
    Posts: 268

    from at the gym

    I agree with riverview - not welded. I have seen them like that before. Lately I have been using a blunt punch in the air chisel to rattle it loose. careful use of heat works also - key word careful. Besides, there is no logical reason to have welded it.
  20. jesse1980
    Joined: Aug 25, 2010
    Posts: 1,355


    I bet there's no shoes or hardware under those drums.
  21. Jim Bouchard
    Joined: Mar 2, 2011
    Posts: 561

    Jim Bouchard

    ^^ Yea, the drum is tapered and just rusted to the axle. ^^
  22. What he said. It's NOT weldment, but a taper built into many drums, in part to keep water out.

    I wouldn't, however, pry them off. Smacking with a hammer should loosen, then pull them off as normal. You will need to back off the adjusters, or break the nails, depending on how worn/rusted are the internals.

  23. Steve!
    Joined: Sep 27, 2011
    Posts: 268

    from at the gym

    Pat, what vehicle is this on? Maybe someone with the same car can chime in if that looks normal.
  24. 8" ford rear approx 65-66. They have tapered drums? It's sitting on a couple jack stands not mounted in a car.
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2013
  25. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
    Posts: 13,217


    You sure was on hamb just a few months ago.

    and the answer is the same as last time; it is not welded. That is the tapered edge of the drum. Many drums were like that. When you finally get it off, you will see that it is almost like a knife edge, that bites into the rusted axle end. That is why it seems solid, because it it is rusted together.

    heat all the way around at that spot that looks welded, then hit the front outside edge of the drum at a 45 degree angle, so it won't bend the drum. The drum will start to loosen if you keep rotating to a different spot when you hit it.
  26. X2, any chance the shoes are rusted to the drum ?
  27. flathead31coupe
    Joined: Mar 23, 2006
    Posts: 1,596

    from indpls, in

    x2 bet its not welded...
  28. Could be, the other side the drum is rusted to the backing plate. LOL Thought I'd start on the easy side first. :)
  29. tommyd
    Joined: Dec 10, 2010
    Posts: 11,350

    from South Indy

    ^^^^^^THIS. Not welded.
  30. cfnutcase
    Joined: Nov 29, 2008
    Posts: 1,033

    from Branson mo

    Same reply from me....not welded, just delt with the very same thing about a week ago, thought some ahole had welded the drums on a 9" I had just got till I got pissed and knocked the shit out of it and one popped off.....not welded!! Jim

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