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where to purchase a new or used reostat foot pedal

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TheQuietOne, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. TheQuietOne
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    This will be for a bead roller that I want to make with a 46" throat. I have a 1/6HP electric motor (1750 rpm) and a 18:1 gear reduction unit. Would like the reostat peadal to make this thing variable speed. Like the title says , used or a resoanbly priced new compatible with 110/115.

    Thanks
    Travis
     
  2. Mike51Merc
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    This is just a guess--- I'd probably look in a Grainger catalog or online. If not there, I'd look at sewing machine foot controllers.
     
  3. TheQuietOne
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    Mike,
    Thanks for the quick reply. I tried a sewing machine controller from a local store. I knew it was cheap when we opened the thing. It lasted all of 30 seconds and smoked the pedal. I am sure it WAS NOT a comercial unit though. I never thought about grainger.

    Travis
     
  4. Ranunculous
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    Hey Travis,
    Did you check in at Fastenal? The good looking gal with the green eyes is great at finding/ordering and might be able to score one for you-she got aluminum bolts for me.
     
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  6. heatnbeat
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    A sewing machine motor is actually DC motor

    a DC motor is alot easier to work with for a bead roller
    it can be variable speed plus can be reversed.
     
  7. 201
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    Just saw this on You Tube yesterday. Guy made his own bead roller and powered it with a 1/2 in. drill frome HF. The drill was belted to what looked like a 12 in. pulley driving the rolls.His foot petal pulled a leaver that squeezed the triger. Not as hoaky as it sounds. Do a search on the Tube and it should pop up. The thing ran good!!
     
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  9. Mike51Merc
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    Um, my wife's sewing machine is AC.
     
  10. heatnbeat
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    they have a converter in them that changes ac to dc
     
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  12. Mike51Merc
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    Um, No. AC motor. No converter.

    AC motors can be speed controlled and reversible. Ever own a Lionel train set?
     
  13. krusty40
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    Try Irvan-Smith in Concord, NC 704/788-2554. They manufacture bead rollers which are used by many of the NASCAR teams to fabricate car bodies. Kevin will probably sell you a foot pedal. vic
     
  14. blinddaddykarno
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    Trains use a transformer that converts AC to DC!
     
  15. Truckedup
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    Sewing machines,at least the 6 older ones my wife uses, have an AC-DC motor.they will run on either because they have brushes.Hand held power tools have brushes,older ones without a variable speed trigger were rated AC or DC .Motors with brushes can be speed controlled with a resistance device.All other AC motors are inductive types and speed control works best by frequency changing done by solid state devices .
     
  16. Mike51Merc
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    No. Lionel trains use AC.
     
  17. sunbeam
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    If the motor does not have brushes it will be expencive to speed control
     
  18. TheQuietOne
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    The 1/6 HP motor that I plan on using does have brushes. The new pedals that I found look quite expensive though. This is a reostat foot pedal .........

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#variable-output-foot-switches/=fq2o00
     
  19. Foredom die grinders use a rheostat foot pedal and are pretty heavy duty.Don't know how expensive they are though.
     
  20. sewman
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    The trains are DC & have 3 rails because the center rail was for the contact + & the wheels were the ground,since the wheels were on a common shaft they need the center rail for the +
     
  21. Mike51Merc
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    No sir. Three rail trains are AC, with the center rail as the hot leg and the outer rails neutral. Two rail trains are DC.

    Trust me, or don't trust me and look it up. Either way, they're AC.
     
  22. Ranunculous
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    Hey Travis,
    Back on topic...
    Did you find a pedal for your bead roller yet?
     
  23. TheQuietOne
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    Not yet. Heck I got de-railed myself and decided to go out and look at buying a train.............;):D
     
  24. sunbeam
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    Check Amazon they show a Wecheer control thats up to 6 amps for $45.
     
  25. TheQuietOne
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    That looks like what I am looking for. Thanks. I've looked on Amazon atleast 5 different times and never saw this one.

    Travis
     
  26. TheQuietOne
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  27. swissmike
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    Those foot pedals are not made for power applications where the current flows through the pedal. The pots are made to control electronics. The pots are rated at 2W, 1/6hp is more than 100 W.
     
  28. TheQuietOne
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    Thanks I will keep looking. I am not an electrical guru by any means, saw where one of the pedals is rated at 10 amps and 1/2hp when switched but what you said does make sense.

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    Last edited: Jan 14, 2012
  29. Dan Parker
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    I have a used one that I took off a bead roller. I am converting it to a external varible speed drive. You can have it pm me an address. I know it is not the pay it forward thread but it is good.
     
  30. This thread is fun.:D

    The wife has both AC and DC motors on her sewing machines, and they are ALL internally controlled. The foot pedal hooks to a rod that goes to a lever on the motor...and then magic happens.

    How about the foot pedal control for a Yoder or similar metal shaping machine?
    [​IMG]
    Baliegh tools use what I swear is a Lincoln TIG control pedal, but what happens once the lead goes in the box is beyond me...
     

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