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When did mechanics become techs

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SWIGJ, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. SLAMIT
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    Absolutely wrong. the code tells you what sensor might have tripped the fault. like maybe the input speed sensor on the transmission. but when you pull out your OHM meter and start checking the 14 wires from tcm to transmission and realize that you have ATF fluid Migration through the harness to all the other connectors and to the tcm and then you get to pull and split the trans in half and then replace the harness then splice 14 wires and connector ends then recheck for high resistance in 14 wires to 14 different things. that's when you get the little Idea what being a Tech means....
     
  2. SLAMIT
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    Heh my point exactly.
     
  3. Hyway Hauler
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    Out to lunch wrong...
     
  4. SLAMIT
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    Well 28 years old and have been working on cars for 13 years as a payed job. Trade School?????

    Kids.. Yeah I have 3 of em that i support with being a good TECH.
     
  5. SLAMIT
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    huh????
     
  6. Hyway Hauler
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    Trade school is something we have up here in Canada...3 stage apprenticeship, if that even is still around.
     
  7. Beau
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    I'm just giving you guys shit. :)

    I have been a bicycle "tech" for 15 years. Yes, I know, not as complicated. When we went from just riding bikes that looked like they fit, to riding bikes that are custom fit and into the 5 figure range, we had to become technicians. Hell, I'm a B.S.E. certified technician in the cycling industry. Did you know that even existed?

    I went to school in Mankato and had a lot of friends in the A.E.T. program (one of the best in the states). It's amazing what they have to learn.
     
  8. SLAMIT
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    Oh I know what it is and I work with the guys who come out of the " Trade Schools" great bunch of Skilled????? fellas. You get the experience from actually working on the cars and being stuck right in the middle of a tranny rebuild when you realize that they shipped you the Wrong parts and you have to wait a month while your trans sits on your bench. then you have to put it back together with all new shafts and syncro's and bearings that you took out a month ago. then put it in the car and feel good about giving it back to the customer.

    Shoud I go on??????
     
  9. SLAMIT
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    Then I know that you Know in your heart that fixing shit isn't as easy as it may seem..... now put 25 computers on that bike that tell hundreds of other sensors what to do. along with a lot of wires. now tell me that we just hook up a computer.....
     
  10. Hyway Hauler
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    Do you have a fetish with transmissions???
     
  11. SLAMIT
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    Kinda..... but if you look, I said convertible tops once and transmissions twice. so does that mean I have a half fetish for convertible tops on the 6 cars a day that I get?????
     
  12. moter
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    Your first mistake is working for VW/Audi :rolleyes:...That has got to be one of the most fucked up car-lines on the road! Lets see...I had an 02 Allroad bi- turbo in this week, 80k showing, you could write a $8000 estimate on this car and still not fix everything..Wanna make money repairing cars, sleep good at night knowing you actually fixxed something when your done, try late Model Toyota/Lexus/Honda`s ;)
     
  13. Hyway Hauler
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    Scooptrams and 60 ton Haulage trucks are my babies, the odd 2 Boom Jumbo Drill, somtimes get squeezed into the 16 hour shift. Theres nothing like the sound of 750 hp Detroit Diesel tearing down the drift wide open in second gear, and shaking the shop 7900 feet underground.
     
  14. Hyway Hauler
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    You should come work in the mines up here...37.86$ an hour + 7.25$ an hour danger pay bonus + 8.00$ an hour Nickel/production bonus = 53.11 an hour...life is good up here...
     
  15. SLAMIT
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    Thats way cool. I totally appreciate what you do cause I wouldn't want too. but not the same as What I do. Both very skilled positions. you dont just wake up one day and fix either one....

    Agreed???
     
  16. Hyway Hauler
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    Agreed.
     
  17. SLAMIT
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    Shit sign me up......

    No hard feelings at all here. I have worked in this long enough to know you have to have thick skin and take a lot of shit.

    But seriously 53.11 an hour is attractive.
     
  18. ironandsteele
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    the dudes making $30+ are lifetime toyota techs basically. they wouldn't even match the $23.35 as a newcomer to toyotas, i know because i was the guy making those types of decisions until i got out. to be honest ,$22-$26 an hour is pretty average to high on the pay scale in the NW. it varies so much depending on where in the country you are. hopefully you aren't on a "team" or shared hours system where you are.. if not, the best way to get ahead is to produce. period. be the guy that volunteers to do the job-no matter what, and eventually the good shit starts flowing your way if you're good.
    it always cracked me up when the dudes who bitch and moan all day about having to do certain things would cry on payday because their check was 60 hours, and the dudes who got it done no matter what quietly collect their checks for 120+ routinely.
    it's all attitude and aptitude.
     
  19. SLAMIT
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    AMEN. I try to be the guy who "gets it done" it will slowly start to pay off. did for me before. just have to build that up now here. hence all the tranny work.
     
  20. ironandsteele
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    you do what you gotta do. hours are hours, and good techs are good techs no matter what. that's the ONLY thing i miss about being a tech in a dealership environment-kicking most people's asses in hours and having no come-backs simply because i had a good attitude and decent skills. TONS of guys in the trade have decent skills or a great attitude, you just gotta put them together. one is easier to adopt than the other though... saw a lot of guy with a "great heart" who had no clue... haha.
     
  21. my friend works at a restaurant. hes a Flatware sanitation engineer. then my other buddy owns some land in Tennessee hes an edible vegetation growth specialist. Then there's my uncle hes a fluid delivery and evacuation tech for residential applications. then my dad, hes a commercial and residential furniture relocation specialist. and then there's me. i work at home I'm a professional sofa cushion tester / brewed alcoholic beverage quality assurance tech for long term reliability tests, i just couldn't help myself.. :D
     
  22. duste01
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    When someone got technical.
     
  23. skwurl
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    3 two's need about 2 psi. Man I thought you were a mechanic. :D
     
  24. Mr48chev
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    Well put. When I was a Sophomore in my first year of high school autoshop class in 1962 a lot of the local mechanics were pretty much of the grease monkey type. There wasn't too much to diagnose on the older cars and usually you could figure it out with a vacuum gauge, compression gauge and a good ear. Almost anyone could pull the heads off an engine, grind the valves, throw in a new set of rings and bearings and stick it back together and expect it to go another 50,000 miles before doing it again.

    Now it's find the fault code, go in the book or on the computer and find out what that means and how to deal with it.

    As far as "trade schools or Tech Schools, there are all levels of schools out there. Some do the in the front door, out the back door thing with little hands on learning inside while some of the others have great instructors and turn out some first rate wrenches.
    School trained or not, anyone who does not keep up on the latest these days and take advantage of every class he/she can get will have a hard time of it out in the shops. There may still be room for a few "Greasy Jims" in the world but that room is getting smaller all the time.
     
  25. greazhonkey
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    Somehow "mechanic" became a dirty word. If it wasn't for us blue collar folks this country would collapse. Ever see the average CEO change his/hers own oil?
     
  26. interstatemaster
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    When people would ask me what I did for a living, I would answer that I was a musician. I would say I played wind instruments. I tuned engines to make beautiful music. That was when I could adjust ignition timing and carburetor fuel mixture. I was technical even then, using a four gas analyzer to optimize the fuel curve.
    Then in the 80’s I started spending 100 hours every year in class learning how a computer thinks. Then my job became an interrogator. First I had to interrogate the customer to find out when and what the vehicle was doing, then interrogate the vehicle to find which computer sensor was lying.
    When a new hire “mechanic” would show up and get stumped by a drivability problem it was fun to ask, did you do a compression check? That’s a mechanic question.
    I am an ASE Master Tech with advanced certifications, but I will always be a mechanic. Mechanics know that all problems can’t be solved by a scan tool while sitting behind the wheel. You still need compression, spark and fuel to arrive at the right time for the engine to run. There are just a lot more decisions being made by computers now. I miss being a musician. Being a technician just means I get to satisfy a computers idea of how the engine should run.
     
  27. SLAMIT
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    Hah hah. Thats funny.

    But it starts from 5 to 7 psi before you regulate it via "Mechanical" regulator down to what works with your set up.

    Duh!!!!!!!!

    hahahahahahahahahaha
     
  28. SLAMIT
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    word!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  29. Ebert
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    When GM built their last generation Suburban (which I have one!), they had to cover the production asses by making this change. GM techs/mechanics have NO chance to save GM's face on these pieces of shit....2007 Suburban with two trans replacements. multiple non-starting issues, two water pumps, the fucking motor drinks a quart of oil (GM: "within specs") every 1000 miles or less.....there is a ton more like two door handles falling off, etc....total SHIT!

    Give these techs/mechanics a break...they didn't build these POS's!!!!! I have owned at least 7 SUburbans and this will be the LAST! Both my Dad and Grandfather eached worked for GM EACH for 40 years..they would be turning over in their graves!!!!! I am going Japanese!

    E
     
  30. deuceman32
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    It's all about terminology. I have a pal that has been known to call me a Sexual Intellectual. He says that is the politically correct term for a fucking idiot.
     

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