The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by RoadkillCustoms, Sep 1, 2008.
thanks for this !
Neat deal..............Lotsa work I'm sure. Thanks
Just added a bunch of OEM Wheel Size data for some of the older domestic rides...
Anyone with any info I don't have listed, please PM me.
It's odd that the 1/2 ton ford truck 5 x 5.5 only goes back to 1954 according to the list.
V/8. I believe that the 5 x 5.5 fits Ford PU (Also Ford passenger '48 and earlier) back to the Model A except for the '36 to '39 wide five years.
Maybe You mean Chevys instead of GM.
Full size Olds and Cadilac up to 76 are all 5x5 , I think Pontiac and Buick as well,
77 chassis change up to 91 created some differances between the 2 depending on std or HD options. I think all RWD cadi was 5x5 still ( my 87 was ) and Olds wagons was 5x5 too
I had a fullsize '78 Chevy that had the larger bolt pattern. 5 x 5".
My '88 Chevy Celebrity has 5 x 115 mm.
Earlier Celebrity had 5 x 100mm. I'm not sure what year the changeover happened but 1985 had the 5 x 100mm.
I think the changeover was when they went from 13" wheels to 14" wheels.
Celebrity was made from 1982-1990 not 80-89. Wagons only in 1990.
Update from Wikipedia:
Chevrolet Celebrities in all models were available with 2 different bolt patterns on the wheel hub - either 110mm (JA1 code) or 115mm (JA2 code). Additionally, the trans-axles and brakes were different on these two patterns. The smaller of the bolt pattern was used in the standard models, and used a non-vented disc brake while the larger bolt pattern was to house the heavy duty vented disc brakes.
As always Wiki may or may not be correct!
My '88 has JA2 but there are no 100 mm 88s.
Thanks for putting this together.
Does anyone know what the + 20 and so on means on the backspace ,is that millimeters or percentage or thous. ?
Wow, thanks for posting, this will be a very handy reference going forward.
Nice. What about 4 on 4 (Vega, MG Midget, etc.) or 5 on 205mm (VW)?
VW is nice for simple front ends and light wheels.
Early Volvos (pre 1971, I believe) used 5 on 4.5 wheels, too.
We just spent a few days refining the results and speeding up the database...
Wheel Bolt Pattern Cross Reference Database
Thanks - info that you provide has certainly helped me
Great info there. Thanks!
Great resource. I've spent some time looking for this stuff and know how hard some of it is to find.
Couple of suggestions:
Dodge/Plymouth used the 5X4.5 pattern even earlier (20s?), and had lug BOLTS in the 40s and back.
They also used left hand lugs up through around 1972.
it also mentions some GM's used them too.
There is also the Baracuda64-69/Valiant/Dart (BVD) 5X4" small pattern.
Here are some sports car sizes too
http://www.vtowheels.com/assets/images/VTO Fitment Guide 20142.pdf
""There is also the Baracuda64-69/Valiant/Dart (BVD) 5X4" small pattern.
Here are some sports car sizes too""
I think 4-1/4 dia. for the mopar..
Nope, 5 on 4 Pitch Circle Diameter (PCD). I've owned 'em...
another source for newer stuff
Here are some truck listings too
Thanks RodStRace, some good info. We'll work to integrate it into the database...
Alot of front farm tractor wheels and implments run 6 on 6
Thanks for the list, HeartFord. It's been added to the database...
Wheel Bolt Pattern Cross Reference Database
IIRC, 62 - 64 and maybe later Pontiac Grand Prix used 8-bolt wheels; can't seem to find the PCD
I seem to recall that some people found that earlier (50's maybe?) Buick wheels with 6 bolt holes could be used for a wide-front-end A-C D17 tractor; not sure about the PCD
Checking on it now.
There are NO 6 lug Buick wheels from at least the mid-30s and later.
I stand corrected
important info that gets lost in the shuffle sometimes
Updated: Added some larger wheels: 8 and 10 bolt lug patterns (I will also be adding ATV and UTV wheel and bolt pattern info shortly).
Added Lug Nut/Bolt Torque Specs and Minimum Thread Engagement (in turns). See the icon...
Added both MM and Inches to Bolt Pattern and Centerbore measurements.
As this is a growing tool, please share any suggestions or additional data. We'll get on it like flies on stink...
Updated Again. With the recent usage, a bug was discovered that allowed searches with only the Lug Count selected, not Lug Count + Stud Spread. This resulted in a no results found error.
This type of search seemed to make sense, so I made it work... Kinda. It works with all of the lug counts other that 5 - there's just too many to display and the system craps out. I am working on a solution for this and will let you know when you can view every 5 bolt pattern known to modern man. The ATV and UTV info has been added, and I am working on an option to include or exclude this data from your search results.
I also have a line on data for most travel trailers (back to the 40s) and popular service trailer brands that will be added in the near future...
Still not loading....
Thanks anyway, I'm sure that you will get it sorted.
Many (most?) travel trailers that were 5 lug pattern were actually 5-0n-4.5, and used International pickup wheels.
(came in 15 & 16", 4.5" and 5" wide, and '40-'48 Ford caps fit!) Wheels look wider, rim stamping has 3/4" more offset on the outside.)
I don't buy 'new' wheels with 2 pattern applications. I don't hafta.
The not loading is sorted out, but still working on the 5 lug display due the the shear number of records...
Also added today were patterns for Austin Healy, Austin Marina, Crosley, Dodge 5 x 4, Fiat, Hudson, International, Jensen-Healy, Lancia, Lotus, MG, Opel, Plymouth 5 x 4, Porsche, Renault, Studebaker, Subaru, Sunbeam and Triumph...
Separate names with a comma.