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Hot Rods Wheel and Hubcap question?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 08racer, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. 08racer
    Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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    08racer
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    from Gilbert AZ

    Ok, So I finally found the artillery wheels that I wanted.
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    Next order of business get some caps.
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    These are the caps that are suppose to fit the original style wheels. I just figured they should work.
    (after talking the guy into who sold them to me that they would work.) My fault.
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    Nope
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    So my question is, Do I need to make these work by modifying the wheel or cap? Or can I get set that fit? ( I have another set for the newer wheel vintique wheels that are on the car now and they definitely do not fit) I know back in the day the wheels had these types of caps on them. (I have seen pictures)

    Thanks,

    Tom
     
  2. mgtstumpy
    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    Does the OD on the cap flange match the rim recess, or are the tabs interfering / not catching in some way? Tabs are rivited on, will caps fit if tabs are removed and modified / moved slightly? Later Vintique wheels would presumably be JJ rated with double safety beads, stamping could be slightly different to allow for aftermarket caps?
     
  3. 08racer
    Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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    08racer
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    from Gilbert AZ

    Yes, I could bend the tabs and or modify them. The caps will fit. These caps that I just bought are for original ford wheels. (The wheel vintigue caps are much different) Just thought maybe i was missing something because I have seen old pictures of this style cap on these wheels.
     
  4. 08racer
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    08racer
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    from Gilbert AZ

    Is there a different type of hub cap that fit these maybe?
     
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  5. RainierHooker
    Joined: Dec 20, 2011
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    from Tacoma, WA

    Well, for one, those are not original ford wheels. They are likely 1930s/40s aftermarket, Kelsey-Hayes and Budd are most common (I can't tell without seeing the backs of them) but could be OEM for an 'other' manufacturer. Ford never made a factory artillery wheel, unless you count the '36-39 wide-fives. That said, Ford hubcaps won't fit without modification. The ford caps secure with an outward flare, those secure into the clips with an inward flare a la GM and MoPar caps. You may be able to find somthing that fits in a non-ford catalog.

    I'll try to track down some good pics of the aftermarket caps that fit Kelsey-Hayes artilleries, I have been trying to track down a set for mine for quite some time...
     
  6. 08racer
    Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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    08racer
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    from Gilbert AZ

    Thanks. I know it can be done I'll just have to modify them I guess.
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  7. 08racer
    Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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    08racer
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    from Gilbert AZ

    I'm an idiot. They actually fit. Please disregard this post.

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  8. jcmarz
    Joined: Jan 10, 2010
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    jcmarz
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    from Chino, Ca

    yes, that is correct.
     

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