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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mikko_, Feb 1, 2021.

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  1. Graham08
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
    Posts: 145


    My holiday catalog just arrived in the mail today...sorta weird after reading this thread. I ordered a couple calendars back in December that I got in a timely fashion. I hope they're able to sort out whatever is going on, I have a complete set other than the first four issues.
  2. jim snow
    Joined: Feb 16, 2007
    Posts: 1,578

    jim snow

    Got my holiday catalog today also. I’ve been a subscriber since issue two. I certainly hope they will be able to get back on track. Snowman
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  3. Louie
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 667

    from NJ

    Holiday catalog showed up today here in NJ.
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  4. 1lucky1
    Joined: Apr 19, 2009
    Posts: 1,247

    from Morgan NJ

  5. I haven't seen one but what does it matter, Christmas has come and gone why should the owners of Rodders Journal spend the money and postage on a sales catalog that is useless. HRP
  6. Fordors
    Joined: Sep 22, 2016
    Posts: 4,393


    I have no doubt the catalogs went out in a timely manner, the fault lies with Louis DeJoy meddling with equipment, man hours and procedures at the USPS.
  7. Jimmy B
    Joined: May 4, 2004
    Posts: 5,957

    Jimmy B

    Wow! Someone hasn't been paying attention and your comment proves it. And just to recap, TRJ posted they were sending catalogs PRE-Christmas to test the speed at which they were delivered. The current Postal service cluster fuck is telling with how long these catalogs have taken to be delivered.
  8. '34 Terraplane
    Joined: Jul 11, 2011
    Posts: 283

    '34 Terraplane
    from Western PA

    I live in Western PA. As others have already reported, my 2020 Rodder's Journal Holiday Catalog arrived TODAY - March11th !! (mailed from Lancaster, PA but not dated)

    Should I inquire with the Guinness Book of Records for the longest period of time it took a piece of mail to travel the shortest distance?
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  9. Fordors
    Joined: Sep 22, 2016
    Posts: 4,393


    Strictly up to you whether you take a sub or not but personally I’m through.
    I’ve been with them almost since the beginning, I do have a full set but have no hope of seeing issue #85.
    I was always patient, it never bothered me that they were behind in meeting their target of four issues a year, (what are they 20 behind?) but I think my sub has run out and I won’t be re-upping.
    Will I miss TRJ? Probably, but I find their lack of communication and highly questionable practice of robbing Peter to pay Paul inexcusable.
    Some want to defend and support them and that’s fine. I have a hunch though, any money sent their way will go to their creditors, the party’s over.
  10. SPEC
    Joined: Feb 1, 2021
    Posts: 599


    From a very reliable source, Steve's Mother is very ill. He is her only caretaker, the next issue is 50% done.
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  11. stanlow69
    Joined: Feb 21, 2010
    Posts: 6,392


    Like I said before.
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  12. rod1
    Joined: Jan 18, 2009
    Posts: 1,082


    Man I'm rooting for Steve and the Gang to show the world that there are some real Comeback Quarterbacks left! Yes I have some skin in the game,as my Sweety had just reupped my Subscription for my birthday.Every year it is my favorite present.She doesn't get it.If Steve offered me the lifetime subscription tomorrow, with his word he was going to keep trying,I'd be in..Go Steve Go. (This post has been edited by me with an apology to any I offended.It didn't help the situation)
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  13. acme30
    Joined: Jun 13, 2011
    Posts: 209

    from Australia

    I am truly sorry to hear that Steve's mother is ill but that said if issue 85 ever gets finished it doesn't make much difference if it doesn't get sent to international subscribers. I guess if your in the USA then you will eventually get your copies but likely not if you are international. If you take the time to read all the threads and posts on this topic you will see that whilst issue 83 was lost in the post for most international subscribers issue 84 was never and still has not been sent to international subscribers.

    So no international subscribers received issue 83 and issue 84 was never sent - (issue 84 is supposedly being held at the distributors - they aren't lost or slow in the post they haven't been sent.

    Also this is not a new issue it has been going on now for a long long time
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  14. acme30
    Joined: Jun 13, 2011
    Posts: 209

    from Australia

    Cool thanks for re-subscribing. I hope you can convince a lot of others to do so as well. As one of the Asshats that is good for me because then Rodders Journal might use your money to process the refund (that they agreed to but never processed) for my B cover subscription and the tshirts that I ordered but which have never been sent.

    And just because I am an Asshat, that doesn't mean I don't feel for the people who work at Rodders Journal if they loose their jobs but I can't say I have much respect for an organization that fails to communicate to its customers over a period of months.

    And am I going to starve if I don't get my issues, tshirts or refund well obviously no but do I appreciate being treated as a fool, or cash cow and left in the dark well I guess you can see that I don't.

    To still be taking orders and subscriptions for what you can not or will not supply is not in my view good business practice.
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  15. Ziggster
    Joined: Aug 27, 2018
    Posts: 1,166


    This situation reminds me of a similar unfortunate one for a business in town my wife and I used to frequent. The couple had opened a successful shop importing Mexican style furniture, and also took custom orders. On one trip to the store tbey advised us they would be closing. They explained that one of “middlemen” they had been dealing with for many years had “disappeared” with tbe deposits they had brought down for a containers worth of custom pieces. In total, it was about CAN$60K. There was no way of recovering the money, so they decided they would repay all their customers who had made deposits back with their own money. They sold everything they had and repaid their customers, and shut down the business a couple of months later. I truly hope if TRJ is still accepting funds, they return those funds to their subscribers and customers if they are unable to deliver the goods. It’s just the right thing to do.
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  16. Hummm...if memory serves correctly, I seem to recall that I got a Christmas Catalogue BEFORE Christmas and another one Yesterday.
  17. Automotive Stud
    Joined: Sep 26, 2004
    Posts: 4,192

    Automotive Stud

    Same here. I'm still waiting on a couple calendars I ordered in January.
  18. proartguy
    Joined: Apr 13, 2009
    Posts: 560

    from Sparks, NV

    I can’t help but wonder if magazine subscriptions are like a game of Musical Chairs.
    A partial list of publications I subscribed to and had them end seems pretty long;

    Rod & Custom - a couple of times
    Hot Rod DeLuxe
    American Rodder
    Rod Action
    Custom Rodder
    Rodder's Digest
    Street Rodder
    Car Craft

    Now this thread seems to indicate The Rodder's Journal may be in trouble. No doubt the non-US subscribers have been the first to be affected. The unfortunate part, to me, is the lack of explanation by the publisher or others associated TRJ. That seems typical in my experience.

    With the dissolution of many magazines I subscribed to TRJ as a way to preserve and promote hot rodding, thus paid for many years and have almost 30 issues due me. Unfortunately, publications seem to have a limited life and like a game of Musical Chairs, without warning someone loses.
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  19. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
    Posts: 8,181

    Alliance Vendor
    from Nebraska

    Got my calendars in a timely fashion in December then the Christmas catalog in late January. I'm a lifetime subscriber so I'll just sit back and accept whatever happens.
  20. woodiewagon46
    Joined: Mar 14, 2013
    Posts: 2,054

    from New York

    I just got the 2020 Holiday Catalog, not too bad, only about 3 months late. I have been a subscriber since day one and hope they don't follow many of the other hot rod magazines into obscurity.
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  21. dserge
    Joined: May 10, 2020
    Posts: 40

    from WV

    Steve has a sick mother ? I certainly hope not.
    But this is excuse number what ?
    Even if this is true he hasn't had time in the last 8 months to post on his website or this site that he is in a bad situation. I'll bet he has had time to cash the checks and submit the credit card information. I do know he turned my credit card information in.
  22. Boones
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 9,692

    from Kent, Wa
    1. Northwest HAMBers

    When the back order special for $5 came up I bought several as I had let my subscription lapse. and then a few days later I did the joint Alliance/ year subscription in Jan (maybe it wsa early Feb).. got issue 84.. hope to get future.. if I had seen this post I probably would not have signed back up.. I wish the best for everyone
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  23. 1940Willys
    Joined: Feb 3, 2011
    Posts: 656


    Got my 2020 Christmas Gift Ideas Catalog today.....Yay
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  24. Just for the record: I received my 2020 Holiday Catalog yesterday. Yay USPS!
  25. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 20,665

    Staff Member

    1. The move from west to east.

    2. The Covid pause.

    3. Entire print destroyed in a warehouse.

    4. USPS was weaponized in November - destroying efficiency.

    5. Family issue.

    It’s the perfect storm... confounded by a lack of communication which leads to people (right or wrong) jumping to conclusions and making accusations. People doing what they do on the internet...

    I can’t blame them.

    I still have not talked to anyone. I know nothing.

    Still - I’m not giving up hope, friendships, or anything else. Shit happens. I’ll sit in the dark and hope dawg... cuz the alternative sucks for everyone.
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  26. Sounds like what happened to Eric aka VAPhead a few years ago
    Sent from my SM-J337V using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
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  27. proartguy
    Joined: Apr 13, 2009
    Posts: 560

    from Sparks, NV

    Ryan, those are all valid points, but the lack of communication is a main problem.

    I hope that Steve and TRJ prosper and assume that others who have expressed frustration would as well. According to the masthead in TRJ there are several employees who should be able to step in and deal with the subscribers. As in any relationship communication is a key factor, without it people expect the worst.
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  28. I have to agree that *ANY* communication is definitely needed. People can be a lot more understanding if they get communication about a situation. The silence from TRJ is what is the problem is and why so many people are upset. I absolutely hope that the reported problems are just a huge roadblock that can be overcome and TRJ can continue on. But please TRJ, provide some communication to customers.
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  29. WiredSpider
    Joined: Dec 29, 2012
    Posts: 1,027


    Just got my 2020 holiday catalog today.
    doesn,t say much for the Post office
  30. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,947

    from Colorado

    Over the years in this industry, I have had to send out press releases on behalf of clients explaining situations that affected businesses in an unflattering way. I do not have a dog in this fight, but I find it inexcusable that TRJ has not stepped up to the plate and informed customers and would be customers some sort of explanation as to why the company has been unable to meet customer needs.
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