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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Donuts & Peelouts, Dec 7, 2017.

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  1. I see this sometimes. More at shows. But what's it called when one alters the rear suspension like in this picture, is thier a specific term. What affects both positive and negative does this do to the car? What rear ends are used for this?

    Thanks [​IMG]

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  2. Bad taste, best describes this suspension.
    I cant imagine any good effects.
     
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  4. Essentially, the rear of the frame has been heavily "Z'd" or "kicked up". You will lose any room for rear passenger seating if you go as low as your first post picture.
     
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  5. In those really low cars your transmission/tailshaft tunnel becomes an armrest.
     
  6. Alright I get what Z'ing it is. Thanks alot.

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  7. This is Donk:
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    This is Knod:

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  8. How does a car act when Z'd in the front and back?

    How does it act/respond when just Z'd in the back?

    I can tell the guy in first picture ain't comfortable and I'm talking about just going down the road right? Where did he go wrong?

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  10. blowby
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    And less on the highway.
     
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  11. I've seen some real Fred Flintstone cars around the way.

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  12. flatheadpete
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    That car in the first pic is what I would call fuckin' busted. Looks retarded. But...you know what they say about opinions...
     
  13. theHIGHLANDER
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    In many cases the engineering used is a punchline. We end up seeing the ridiculous try to become sublime, for example, a Model A "laid out" (low rider tactic), an attempt at something between the dreaded 'RR' and tradition (no paint), further confusion inflicted by adding a modern dress BBC complete with EFI (no direction), and only a guess as to what other misplaced effort was used. Suspension? We don' need no fuckin suspension we got bags, yo...

    At least you're asking questions so it's not all bad. I get the feeling this topic could have started with the disclaimer used on the "Street Outlaws" show;

    "Just because we're..."
     
  14. I call 'em "mixed metaphors" 'cause it looks like the builder couldn't make up his mind which direction he wanted take the car.:rolleyes:
     
  15. Momma said: just because you could, doesn't mean you should.....
     
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  17. arkiehotrods
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    Some people build cars; others build caricatures of cars.
     
  18. squirrel
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    The picture doesn't show the rear suspension, so we can only guess at how it is built. All we know for sure is that the body sits really low, so the frame has a huge Z in it. It's pretty likely that it's on air bags. It's possible that it rides pretty well, but it's more likely that it does not. And it probably has some hellacious bump steer, also, with the steering set up like that.
     
  19. RMR&C
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    I call them "clown cars" ... everyone likes what they like I guess.
     
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  20. I agree they are ugly, just wanted to know if that look had a term. But know I see that that "look" is just either a result from not planning or trying to do a look that just don't make sense from the beginning, thanks guys

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  21. squirrel
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    The heavily lowered look is nothing new. It's been around for many decades. It's just become more popular lately, there's a fad with oversized wheels, and the body sitting on the ground.

    Don't make a lick of sense to an old fart like me. That's probably part of the appeal.
     
  22. bonzo-1
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    I am reading the comments and all I see is
    "Get off my lawn"
     
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  23. Blues4U
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    I think Squirrel is probably right, there are probably air bags under the rear. Lack of ground clearance is a problem on cars that sit that low, speed bumps, driveways, even come intersections can cause it to drag. Not a good thing when you're at speed and something comes up unexpectedly. Air bag suspension can allow you to raise it up when needed. In the event of a flat tire, what's going to touch down first, the wheel, or the chassis/body? You have no control if the chassis hits first.
     
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  24. theHIGHLANDER
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    I might be wrong on the engine. I opened it bigger and now it seems to be a victim of the latest LS craze.
     
  25. Correct , and therefore, O/T.
     
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  26. Again, correct..And that's why we're here..And yourself?
     
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  27. What should we call it when the wheels go into the Windows?
    Be original in suggestions. :p:D
     
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  28. jackalope
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    As much as I agree with some points made, I disagree with performance. Lowering the body lowers the COG. IF, I said IF, the suspension is done correctly it will handle way better than a hi boy of exact suspension design


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  29. traffic61
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    image.jpeg Looks like Knod needs a little blue pill.
     
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