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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sgtlethargic, May 16, 2020.
The "one-piece" kind.
The 62 Corvette still had them, Trucks had them till 55 I think
If your talking "cowl vents", Plymouth had them through 1956, if that's not what your talking about, forget it and I go hang some more bird houses....
For Ford the cowl started to appear smaller after 32.The 33-34 have a longer hood,and part of the cowl is under it.By the time the side folding hood ended it was largely gone disappearing under the front lift hood,
Even the T cowl was riveted to the subrails and would have had the quarter panels attached all in one big piece at the factory, most loose cowls are just cut off, I can't think of any car that has a bolted-on cowl in one big chunk.
i haven't drank or smoked anything, but it got confusing here. are we talking firewalls, cowls, or cowl vents?
If you mean stamped out of one sheet of steel, the 27 T would have been the last Ford with a one piece cowl. The model A cowls starting with 28 are made up of several pieces. The newer they get the more and possibly smaller pieces all fastened together to make what serves as the cowl.
I still see 'em here on the HAMB all the time.
I'd like to help, but I don't understand the question, or what the end result is that you are looking for. Bob
EXCEPT for the 28-29 Fordor & Cabriolet cowl. Bob
About the time the ducktail hair style and blue suede shoes went out.
1937 for Willys.
My 1963 b600 bus has one.
A cowl vent and a removable bolt on cowl.
If you count commercial stuff if could be still going except the pop up vent part
I'm more confused than usual.
How were the Ford ‘32 roadsters and rpu done ? Or even the closed cars ?
Cowl top is a separate stamping from the sides.
It wasn't a simple progression. Firewalls on '20s cars were almost always separate pieces. Some manufacturers/coachbuilders took the rear edge of the hood a distance past the firewall well before 1930 – sometimes leaving a gap which allows you to look into the footwell when the hood is open, which I think is quite cool.
And we haven't had milk since.
Sorry, I don't understand the part about a "one piece" cow.
I think it’s just a style/design question. As per the photo, the cowl is a stand-alone unit, located behind the hood, and in front of the front doors. I have collected a handful of model T and A cowls. 32 Ford had a cowl. After that, they started to disappear, as stylist started to blend in the design elements. It could be argued that most manufacturers had moved on from the the “cowl” by the mid nineteen thirties.
This is what you're wondering about. I took the liberty of cropping the images and combining into one.
This cowl is one piece...now...but it's made of more than one piece. The firewall is probably spot welded to the body panel(s), there might or might not be a seam at the reveal line, below where the top meets the sides.
So....are you asking when they started making cowls like this? or when they stopped? or when what specific design feature changed?
I'm confused, too, still.
All cows start out as "one piece"...which probably will change if their final destination is the diner table
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "that way". The major change was when the fenders became one piece, and met the door, so the cowl "disappeared". Is that what you mean? If so, it started happening around 1940 or so, depending on the car make. Hoods got longer, and covered more of the cowl, and fenders changed shape considerably as the grilles began to get wider, and the hoods got wider. By 1949, cowls were completely gone on most cars, although they stuck around on pickup trucks through the mid 50s. Big conventional cab trucks still have cowls, look at a new Pete 389.
Are you thinking RHD because of that hole in the firewall ? Thats to high for a steering column, probably from a manifold heater.
lots of early cars had the ignition coil stuck thru the firewall as an anti theft devise. you would need to be inside to hot wire it. some even had a cable from the key switch to the coil which had the actual switch mounted on the can
The shape may have changed but every car is still made with a cowl.
so....you want to know when the A pillar became permanently attached, at the belt line.
Late 20s, early 30s.
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