Paternal Grandfather Mike (my namesake) drove a Depot Hack for U.S. Postal Service in Hammond, Ind. Later bought a Packard roadster. Grandma never drove. Maternal Grandmother was born in a Prarie Schooner in San Helena, CA.; last trip for her Dad as Wagonmaster from Indepence, Mo. to Seattle, Wash. They were headed to his new farm, in Santa Clara: 80+ acres in Silicon Valley! (back of their farm was 'Second Creek', 280 freeway today. The house was on Scott Lane & Kifer Rd., other end was Santa Clara-Sunnyvale Rd. Grandma was born in 1876, married Grandpa Bob in 189o, 14 yrs of age. Grandpa was the first butcher in Santa Clara, used to deliver meat to SARAH WINCHESTER personally in a sprung 2 horse 'buckboard' with built-up body, later a 1914 Model T C-cab panel. Grandpa later bought a '28 Model A Phaeton, had it for the rest of his life. My Dad met my Mom in '37, he had an awning business: ACME AWNINGS. Honest. Grandpa liked Dad (Joe) as Dad's business truck was a '28 Roadster Pickup! My Mom had 2 hopped up Model A's, got the first one at 17. So, there were Fords.