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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Greg Rogers, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. Greg Rogers
    Joined: Oct 11, 2016
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    Greg Rogers
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    Hi all, I have been lurking around on the Hamb and really enjoy reading about and looking at pictures of other's projects. I have heard lots of comments about what is or is not Hamb friendly. I also am not sure of where to start threads ( Is this in the appropriate spot?) I get that the section for traditional rods and for traditional customs are for those type cars but is the Hokey Ass Message board for the more general car related topics? I own a '71 Cutlass convertible and I assume that car is off topic. I also have a 56 F100. Does that fit in? But wait, it has a 1985 300 6 in it with a 1992 5speed manual transmission. It looks old and weathered but is NOT a rat rod. I tried to build it as a penniless kid would build it in the 70's after grandpa gave it to him. 98% of people who see it think it is a original old truck that was just dragged out of a barn. Is the later 6 cylinder engine off topic/not Hamb friendly? How about later disc brakes? Thanks guys, Greg.
     

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  2. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
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    from Oregon

    If body is relative body style like your 1956 is your good. M2 suspension and LS motors are not.
     
  3. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
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    Lots in here use 350's and T 5 transmissions , so A ok. Some of us have pre '65 parts as much as possible. Just stay with a pre ' 65 flavor and your good.
     
  4. Cool truck, great engine. 300 six was used thru 4 decades. While not 100% era correct, it's close enough to not matter, I'd think.

    5 speed a plenty here. Good thing about that ? Can't see 'em !

    I'm not a moderator, nor the site owner ... the rules are written at the top of the forum. Some read pretty good, others ... not so much. Part of the fun ! :)
     
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  5. MAD MIKE
    Joined: Aug 1, 2009
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    This area is fine, it can be moved to the 'hotrod' or 'custom' forum if you feel you are going either way, if not, leave it here.
    Yup and in general building/maintaining these older vehicles, along with custom techniques and era correct parts and styling. How a car/truck would have been built back then.
    Yup, '64 was the original cutoff, but it gets moved to '65 or later IF the vehicle in question is the same body as an earlier model. e.g. 60-66 GM C/K trucks are, mostly, the same vehicle so the later years are acceptable. But not the 67-72s or later.
    Pony cars(Mustang, Camaro, Challenger) and Muscle Cars('coke bottle' type and later) are usually not allowed.
    That is the gist of some builds here. Truck is fine, engine is from the era, even if it was 'new tech' then. The trans is a contingent point, but with speeds and distances some of us have to travel a 3 or 4 spd is not always logical to use. So a T5 can skirt in, just don't make posts about the T5 itself, plenty of other forums on that subject.
    And that is the key, there really are no other forums on these vehicles as they are not cookie cutter. You can find a few model specific forums but they are not always custom, hot rod or (classic)low rider friendly.

    Converting stock spindle drums to discs is OKish.
    Installing an aftermarket tubular system, be it Vette, MustangII or whatever based is usually frowned upon as that is more 'street rodder'(a four letter word around here) type.
    Multi-piston Brembo brakes, massive rotors, huge twizzler twamp wheels and rubber band tires are not HAMB friendly. Airbags are also a more recent development(compared to the cars on this forum) so that is also a no-n0.

    Check out the two Guidline posts at the top of the forum to get an idea of the look and type of discussions that are allowed.
     
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  6. Brian Penrod
    Joined: Apr 19, 2016
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    Nothing I have is hamb friendly. I come here for a couple of of threads, the altered thread and drag cars in motion. Love all of loudbangs pictures. The rest is pretty much just white noise to me.
     
  7. Truckdoctor Andy
    Joined: Jan 13, 2017
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    Greg, I love your truck and what you have done to it. I would love to see the engine and how you installed it. I’m a Chevy Engine Guy, but love the 300 Ford. Absolutely the best light duty gasoline truck engine built!


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  8. 41rodderz
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    Hold up on the T 5 not being okay here. There is a huge thread on T 5's packed with loads of info. on here.
     
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  9. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    What is HAMB friendly? well, in this picture, there are only two vehicles, one car and one truck. There are no other vehicles.

    hamb.jpg
     
  10. Donuts & Peelouts
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    But always remember it's your car and we dont pay your bills.
     
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  11. Donuts & Peelouts
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    So dont kill yourself or your wallet to fit in. BUT always respect the old school.
     
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  12. tiredford
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    IIRC the boss said radials are never acceptable.
     
  13. Moriarity
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    I believe what the boss said was something like , Every traditional hot rod or custom deserves to have bias ply tires... and he is right....
     
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  14. anthony myrick
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    Whatever the mods say it is
     
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  15. Moriarity
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  16. lake_harley
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    Maybe "HAMB Friendly" is similar to what some unknown-to-me Senator said when pornography was being discussed? "I don't think I can describe exactly what pornography is, but I know it when I see it"

    Lynn
     
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  17. Your truck is on topic and you already know the Cutlass is off topic, the Hamb has tightened up on certain things like Mustang and aftermarket front suspensions and some of the later model engines, I equate something like your later model engine to the stand with the military, don't ask,don't tell.

    As long as you don't dwell on it your good to go. HRP
     
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  18. arkiehotrods
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    It is not "pre-65" but "65 and older" which would make it "pre-'66."
    From the link Moriarity posted in post #15, Ryan's rule no. 4:
    "4. We cover traditional '65 and older American cars only. "
     
  19. anthony myrick
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  20. Atwater Mike
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    '65 and older. Period! I can go with this. The government has no hand in this. It's OURS!
     
  21. You'll find that some members like to dictate what is or isn't "HAMB friendly" more so than the moderators themselves, which I've never quite understood. The moderators are titled as such under their name next to their location, if you don't see that, just take it as a grain of salt.
    Read the rules up top, lurk about and you should figure things out on a reasonable pace.
     
  22. carcruse
    Joined: Aug 20, 2007
    Posts: 637

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    Per Ryan the site owner:

    The HAMB is dedicated to spreading the gospel of traditional hot rods and kustoms to hoodlums world wide. That's right; TRADITIONAL. If you've come here to discuss anything other than Hot Rods or Customs built in a style representative of 1965 or before, you've come to the wrong forum.

    Even if you have come here for all the right reasons, don't expect posting to be easy. We don't cater to new fellas unless they show a dedication to spreading this tradition of ours first. We welcome young, old, foreign, and all; but our original members and our staff expect a certain level of respect and an effort to keep things true and on topic.

    Maybe you are an old fart with a past. Maybe you are one of the guys that started this tradition we cherish. We built this place for you and your posts mean the world to us. Hop on and introduce yourself. This is your board.

    Still reading? Then you must be cut out for this, right? We recommend you read some more. Check out all the forums, develop an understanding for how things work around here, learn the "do's"; and "dont's"; The key to a happy HAMB newbie is to understand the joint BEFORE you begin posting.

    We have very few written rules here on the HAMB and that's the way we like it, but we won't hesitate to dump disruptive posters, ego freaks, or shit talkers. We are all here to learn and teach - please keep your other prerogatives on the sidelines.

    ................................

    Rules:
    1. No profanity in subject lines.

    2. No political/religious/racial posts at all. No exceptions.

    3. No Porn.

    4. We cover traditional '65 and older American cars only. All other threads will be deleted. We don't cover rat rods, muscle cars, mustangs, or VWs.

    5. No commercial posts.

    ................................

    Guidelines:
    1. If in doubt, don't post it.

    2. Stay on-topic and relevant with your posts; OT posts aren't generally appreciated by our membership.

    3. Gotta easy question? Try using the search function first.

    4. While we don't require "introductions," some members do appreciate them so it might be a good idea for you to do one here. Just introduce yourself and let folks know what you are all about.

    5. As mentioned throughout these guidelines, the H.A.M.B. focuses on TRADITIONAL hot rods and customs. Posts pertaining to traditionally inspired, but not quite period perfect belong on the main forum found here. Please note that we don't focus on things such as modern fuel injected motors, big-inch wheels, frame clips, after market independent suspensions, etc... at all on the H.A.M.B.. As such, posts that stray away from the "traditional inspired" will be deleted.

    6. Posts about period correct hot rods should go here.

    7. Posts about period correct customs should go here.

    ................................

    Why Was My Post Deleted?
    1. Did you confuse the H.A.M.B. with Facebook? That we are not... Save your personal strife for your choice of social media - it doesn't belong here.

    2. Did you post a "pray for me" thread? We don't do religion here. Join this group instead.

    3. Did you disrespect another user? We believe verbal battles through the internet are bullshit and as such, we delete all that we can. Further more, if you can't express an opinion without bagging someone else's, maybe you should rethink the validity of your opinion?

    4. Did you disrespect the H.A.M.B. or a member of its staff? Feel lucky that all you walked away with is a deleted thread or post. This is the quickest way to get your account deleted.

    5. Was your thread something that has been covered over and over again? Try searching next time. We've had countless threads through the years on bias tires vs. radials, the definition of "traditional," and many other topics. We don't need to rehash what the bulk of us already know.

    And, most importantly:

    6. Was your thread about something other than traditional hot rods and customs? Aside from a few "sidebar" topics that interest the staff here, we don't allow off topic posts. Your definition of "traditional" might differ from ours. That's fine. However, this is our forum and it's our definition that the forum is run off of.

    Last edited: Aug 28, 2013
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    Ryan Cochran
     
  23. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    Best thing you can do is hunt down and buy some rod magazines or custom magazines that are pre 1965 and maybe from the time frame that you want your ride to represent. That shows you exactly what the guys were doing at that time and the adds show you what was available and may have been the hot lick at the time. That way you have a pretty good handle on what is right and what doesn't fly. You even have the pictures in the magazine to back yourself up if someone has a hissy.
    Somethings just have to flat look right in the end though. Meaning a set of new aftermarket gauges should look proper from a few feet away and not look "too modern" We can't all afford those original 50's Stuart Warner gauges that are so cool but we can usually swing a set of new gauges that look close enough.

    The main thing is that if you have something like an aftermarket independent suspension and disk brakes just flat don't brag about it here or don't post a whole photo thread on how you installed it. You just don't mention it.
     
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  24. A few hours reading around here should sort it out pretty easily


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  25. Ned Ludd
    Joined: May 15, 2009
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    The rules are about keeping the HAMB focused on its core topic, not about raining on anyone's parade. That is why the moderators maintain a degree of flexibility which, while it upsets a certain vocal minority, is to my mind one of the greatest factors in the HAMB's success.

    No VWs; but a Morris Minor might just be OK, depending on the specifics of the build. (I mention this as an example even though I have a Morris Minor which may or may not be quite HAMB-friendly in the end.) Why would this be? Because the VW scene is substantial and has some overlap with the HAMB world. The Morris Minor scene is, on the other hand, comparably tiny, with a far greater emphasis on pure restorations. Let a Morris Minor or two in, and it isn't going to pull the focus of the HAMB anywhere. Let a few VWs in and before you know it a sizeable chunk of the content is about VWs, enough to take the focus off the core topic.

    It's a balancing act which requires a bit of judgment and consideration; far more than a robotic application of the rules would. To my mind the moderators are doing a great job of it.
     
  26. stanlow69
    Joined: Feb 21, 2010
    Posts: 3,592

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    from red oak

    So you built it as a kid that`s short of money in the 70`s. It needs to have modifications done to it. Otherwise it is stock. Restorations of stock vehicles is not what this forum is about. It is about modifying it. As they would of in pre 65. Do what you like as this person who built this truck in the 50`s did. Most people on the HAMB hate it. But it is as traditional as you can get. But not traditional as a 2019 build style because most people don`t like it. . Be respectful of other people`s builds as some people on the site aren`t. Scan0289.jpg Scan0290.jpg
     
  27. Greg Rogers
    Joined: Oct 11, 2016
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    Thanks for your replies guys. I guess I was mostly a muscle car guy. My early driving was in the 70's and was just a little late for the 60's car which I just adored and still do. But after finally being able to afford and build a radical thumping Mopar stroker in a 65 Coronet I realized that was not what I really wanted. Now I like a older vehicle that I can take to the store or whatever easily. Anyway I never desired to own a vintage rod or custom but I appreciate them just the same. I will enjoy this site.for sure, Thanks, Greg.
    TruckdoctorAndy (or anyone else that is interested) I have a build thread on Ford Truck Enthusiasts you can look at if interested. The mounting of the engine is on the first or second page. Here a link:
    https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ase-build.html
     
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  28. arkiehotrods
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    When Ryan says "65 and older," why do some people insist on saying "pre 65?" "Pre '65" would be 1964 and older.
     
  29. RmK57
    Joined: Dec 31, 2008
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    It's to bad about the Mustangs as they were such a terror in the A/FX wars in 65. Not to mention the drivers that get shut out who drove them.
    Oh well, rules are rules...............
     
  30. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
    Posts: 13,941

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    The pre-65 except when a body style was continued into later years thing is for the classifieds. The regular board is cool with 1965 model year cars assuming they're customized or hot rodded in some regard and also that it was done in an historically accurate manner.

    Plenty of people post pics and build threads of vehicles being built with newer drivetrains or suspensions or whatever but they just don't show or mention those parts, works out fine.
     

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