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Projects what have I found in the bush?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 54 ford coupe, Apr 9, 2021.

  1. It's GM by the looks, I'm in Australia and it has a General Motors Holden's Ltd plate on the cowl, the plate has no ID but is a weight rating. Chassis 2240 pounds, Gross 5040.
    Can't see any panels or other clues yet but should be able to get a better look next time I'm there.
    Hoping someone recognises that engine to give me a headstart. I don't know if GMH imported built chassis or just drivelines. 20210409_144836.jpg

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  2. Truck related.
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  3. Hnstray
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
    Posts: 12,356

    from Quincy, IL

    @54 ford coupe

    That appears to be a right had drive Chevy pickup from the late’30s upward to early ‘50s. The engine is, I believe, a 216 cu in Chevy six. The reason I believe it is 216 vs a 235 is that 216 engine had a tin tappet chamber side cover that attached to both the head and block. Whereas, the 235 block tappet chamber had a complete perimeter and used a tin cover only on the block portion.

    It is possible that the cowl pictured there is not original to that chassis.

  4. 1934coupe
    Joined: Feb 22, 2007
    Posts: 5,115


    That is my guess also Ray although not in as much detail engine wise, I think GM engine and the chassis seems to have dual elliptical springs, you can't see them but that seems to be a lever shock mounted to the side of the chassis much like a GM would have.

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  5. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 7,627

    Staff Member

  6. By the looks of the chassis, it was a truck or ute. The sedans with that motor (unless it has had a motor swap) had the "top hat" type chassis rails . The motor is a "late" stovebolt ( post 34 I reckon).
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  7. alanp561
    Joined: Oct 1, 2017
    Posts: 4,794


    Good eye;)
  8. ....Leaves of 3, stay away from me!:eek:
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  9. Not native to Australia.
    Although, apparently it has found it's way here. I've never seen it.
  10. Yeah the vine wasn't a problem, I was pretty wary of snakes though! Thanks for your input, it gives me some clues to look at more closely next time.
    Had wondered if the cowl was from elsewhere, there is another chassis there too so will get a better look at everything soon.
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  11. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 56,581


    If you're interested in trying to find numbers on the engine...look near the back of the block, where the brush covers it, for casting numbers. Might be a long number, and a shorter casting date code. Also there might be stamped numbers, on the pad that is where the distributor enters the block. They will probably be rather rusty and hard to see.
  12. What's found in the Bush
    Stay's in the Bush
  13. He's gonna need an ocean, of Calamine lotion.
  14. tubman
    Joined: May 16, 2007
    Posts: 7,093


    I see that you started this thread under the subject "Projects".

    You sir, are more ambitious than I.
  15. ol-nobull
    Joined: Oct 16, 2013
    Posts: 1,655


    Hi. If nothing else there is some free barb wire included. Jimmie
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  16. Speed Gems
    Joined: Jul 17, 2012
    Posts: 6,433

    Speed Gems

  17. Leaves of 7, feels like heaven. :)
  18. getow
    Joined: May 9, 2016
    Posts: 305


    Well you have seen it now.. Side leaves look like mittens, will itch like the dickens.
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  19. Fortunateson
    Joined: Apr 30, 2012
    Posts: 5,406


    I was thinking 216 for the same reason but I can't see the holes where the stove bolts would attach the cover to the block.

    When I was much younger I'd try to explore every "bush" I could find!
  20. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 34,337


    The frame is 36/49 1/2 ton. The lever shocks ended with 49. The earlier frames had some cast brackets that stuck out in front of the frame horns. 47/49 didn't have those brackets.

    The center crossmember might tell some difference As photos show that they are different on earler trucks than they are on AD trucks.
    If you decide to decode it further the engine serial number stamped on the pad to the rear of the distributor and the cylinder block casting number can probably get you pretty close.
    The black frame is a 41/46 frame note the brackets at the front. Someone changed it to tube shocks with homemade bracket. The rusty one with the engine is a 49 frame. 41 46 frame.jpg 49 Truck frame.jpg
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  21. Latigo
    Joined: Mar 24, 2014
    Posts: 743


    Leaves of 3, wipe with me.
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  22. dan31
    Joined: Jul 3, 2011
    Posts: 1,097


    Lol, you don't want to confuse those sayings
  23. spanners
    Joined: Feb 24, 2009
    Posts: 2,172


    Don't think that's poison ivy. My guess would be lantana which is nearly as bad.
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  24. Not lantana;)
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  25. Speed Gems
    Joined: Jul 17, 2012
    Posts: 6,433

    Speed Gems

    I see what you did there. :D

  26. SS327
    Joined: Sep 11, 2017
    Posts: 2,833


    It’s a Dodge. No one said it yet.
  27. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
    Posts: 5,325

    from Ioway

    Poison Ivy? Pshaw. Watch out for something called "Gympie Gympie", said to feel like a combination of electric shock and acid burns. I think pretty much everything in 'Strya either has thorns or spikes, or is trying to kill you.
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  28. 55Belairretrorod
    Joined: May 2, 2013
    Posts: 136

    from Australia

    Hi Ray, FWIW we also had here in Oz (and I think also the Canadians) what we know as a 'short side plate' 216. It's essentially the U.S. 50-52? 235 but with the smaller bore. It's been known to trick the odd spare parts guy here and there when it comes to supplying gaskets etc. Cheers, Arnold.
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  29. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 15,312

    jimmy six

    Since we ave an Aussie posting, I will keep what I have found in the “ bush” to myself. A mate!
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