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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SinastirSpeedShop, Jan 7, 2011.

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    Just wondering what they are called???
     
  2. Lever action shocks (afaik)
     
  3. strombergs97
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    looks like a model A shock to me..
    Duane
     
  4. metalshapes
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  5. terryble
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    are those armstrong style shocks?
     
  6. Francisco Plumbero
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    I'm very curious, this seems like an odd placement for these.
     
  7. metalshapes
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    I'd be more worried about how and where the front spring is attached to the split 'bones.

    Must be one of those Rat Rod thingies I keep hearing about....
     
  8. FORDY 6
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    I've heard the part circled, call a "shock body".

    These aren't Model A shocks...the shock body is to long, the cover is rounded on the top and screws down, almost all the way to the base.
     
  9. FORDY 6
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    I second the motion...welding the shackle to the 'bones???
     
  10. they are friction shocks... instead of fluid going through a small hole to do the job.. there's two plates of material that are mashed to each other
     
  11. metalshapes
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    Specially that far back...
    Which will multiply the bending forces.

    With a buggy spring you already start out with a lot of pre load, so there is a lot of bending force on that unsupported tube.

    Plus its oval, and the attachment is to the side.
    So the force will get fed in, in the direction the tube its the weakest.

    And it looks like its just a blob of weld, to the flat part of the Oval.
    So in effect, its just held on by the wallthickness off the tube.

    There is a good chance that after a couple of 1000's of cycles there'll be a crack all the way around it...


    Edit.

    Good thing there is no real weight pushing down on it.
    That looks like its only a little old Hemi, those cant weigh much...
     
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  12. ArchangelKustom
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    Not friction, they're hydraulic - see the little fill plug on the side of the body.
    Haven't had any of these in awhile but probably for GM products, maybe aftermarket accessory. Not for Model A either unless accessory.

    Is there a casting number on the arm? If its Gm I can look it up.
     
  13. brad chevy
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    They are Model A shocks, A -5 window coupe had the exact same shocks front and rear,they were mounted where they are supposed to be ,on the outside of the frame.It had them on all 4-corners and was original.
     
  14. That's cool the way you're using those magnets to make those red rings hover like that.
     
  15. Look like Ford 40ish lever shocks.
     
  16. ArchangelKustom
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    Wouldn't you need some type of panhard rod or track bar to keep the front axle from shimmying sideways?
     
  17. ArchangelKustom
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    If so they were accessory shocks someone added. A's have a ball on the end of the shock arm, not a hole. The link between the shock and axle is a dog bone looking clamp with rubber guts.
     
  18. carcrazyjohn
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    Id mount them on the side of the frame where there suppose to be ,
     
  19. Squablow
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    There is some really odd engineering going on in that pic, I don't like the spring being bolted to the top of the frame with 4 hardware store looking bolts and big washers, all the weight of the front of the car is held up by those 4 bolts. And not only are the shackles welded to the bones, but the bones look like they're damn near parallel, although that might just be the picture.

    I don't understand how those shocks could have any travel either.
     
  20. DocWatson
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    Scary, but I am sure that this has been posted on here before. Someone with the exact setup came on and didnt last long, I wonder if its the same guy??

    Doc.
     
  21. No this is not mine. I was doing a search and came upon that picture and was wondering what they were. Thank you for all the post. I have had my questions answered.
     
  22. You know this thread has so many idiotic, abolutely moronic, ignoramous "answers" it just amazes me. We should all refrain from posting answeres unless you have .001 % clue of what you are talking about....that would leave about 3 or 4 posts....sorry i usually don't rant but come on guys, if you are here to learn then don't post answers that you heard in some conversation at you local street meet...and call it gospel.
     
  23. metalshapes
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    I think I can back up what I've posted.

    Having made similar mistakes ( but with lighter gauge, and lighter cars ) in racecar applications.

    I thought I'd try to pass on some of what I've learned...
     
  24. racemad55
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    Bolts look like good grade 8's to me,not enough beef where the shock bolts,should be gusseted or boxed,still studying the picture,don't think I like the design.
     
  25. metalshapes
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  26. I stand corrected. Looked very similar at first. (This is Scott's)
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  27. metalshapes
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    Could be the same car.
    But if it is, its improved a lot from that 1st pic...
     
  28. Dale Fairfax
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    No they're NOT. They are Houdaille hydraulics very similar to stock Ford from 1932-1948. They appear to have longer arms than Ford-maybe Studebaker?


     

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