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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by gotit, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. gotit
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    I bought a rebuilt flathead with under 1k miles on it out of a 46 Mercury about a year ago. All the signs says it's a 59 a-b but it passes the pencil test above the timing cover.

    Here are a couple pics please let me ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1457736058.133375.jpg know what you think ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1457736023.501277.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1457736037.756882.jpg

    Thank you

    GotIt
     
  2. gotit
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    The marker is not sitting on the timing cover either. Should have noted that.

    The water ports are two round lower holes in the center and a keystone or v shape at the top
     
  3. alchemy
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    Did you measure the bore when you had the heads off? Could be a wartime-ish replacement block, which got the 59 stamp, small bore, and then might have the early-style front slope to go with the small bore. Maybe.
     
  4. gotit
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    Bore is 3.287 so it's a stock 3 3/16 with .100 overbore
     

  5. k9racer
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    I have never heard about the pencil trick. what does it mean?? Please tell this old man about it.. Thank You..
     
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  6. TagMan
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    I always thought the "pencil test" had something to do with boobs........... :D
     
  7. akoutlaw
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    I would suggest you ask this over on the Ford Barn. Those guys know all about flatheads & the different variants with them. Bill
     
  8. gotit
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    Just copied this from the ford barn


    The front area of the block above the timing cover on a prewar block comes down like a "J", leaving a space where you can rest a pencil right above the cover. A normal 59A comes down like "/", and a pencil rolls right off.
    There have been sightings of 59's presumably made with a mix of foundry patterns showing the early front...
    But whatever you have, you'll be happier keeping your pencil in the glove box.
     

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