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Webber carbs on a SBC

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by swimeasy, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. big duece
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    I would like to know more about these....:D
     
  2. Duntov1967
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    Yep. I am having Jim Inglese build the entire setup of the triple Offy IDA manifold shown above. He has already mentioned that because it is a plenum manifold, the standards IDA's are way too big even thou there are only three of them. Some custom made chokes are the answer to get them way down in size especially for use on the street.
     
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  3. gow589gow
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    Running Webber on my Pantera. Webbers have many throttle plates; 8 typical. They must be held down well to keep idle under control. This requires a long style spring which keeps pressure even when position is at minimum.

    I set up a lawn mower spring for throttle return:


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  4. Whoa!

    Here's 'nother set I spotted on the entry road to the 5/13 Jalopy Showdown:

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    Side drafts; I know....
     
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  5. Littleman
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    Would these out perform six 94 two barrels ?.........My 355 made 550 hp w/ my setup 6x2, I would need to look at the dyno sheet to see the torque #'s........The torque # took a hit because of the maifold design which was an old Offy..........Wonder if this setup and intake would give me better #'s..........especially torque wise.............I have wondered about this for awhile and never played w/ these...........Thanks, Dave
     
  6. gow589gow
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    Well I guess the car is other but the engine is good candidate for a lot of things. It is a 400 stroked 434. These blocks are still $50 in a junk yard. The hidden secret is the blocks are basically Cleveland's with an extra inch of deck height. Heads are Cleveland heads. Easy cheap power.
     
  7. 32STUPRES
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    How about Weber 48's on a BBC? This is Bill Akin's 40 coupe that's I've driven many miles with this setup and no probaalems! I have a friend that is completing a 34 phaeton with a SBC with Barnes heads and Weber 48's on a custom made intake...will be killer!.....Joe

    The second photo is Bill's 29 roadster with the 4 cam Ford Indy Engine and of course Webers.........
     

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  8. wideglidejoe
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    Mine isn't a SBC, but here's my pic anyway.

    It's a 428 FE stroked to 462 cu in w/four 48 IDA's.

    I'm in the Tulsa, OK area (Broken Arrow), and I'm looking for someone in the Tulsa area that is a good Weber tuner. If anyone knows of someone, please PM me their contact info.

    Thanks,
    Joe
     

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  9. need louvers ?
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    Being that I haven't played with 97 on anything outside of two or three on a flat head, I can't really answer that for you. I can tell you that my gut feeling is that you could probably pull quite a bit more out of a properly set up and sized Weber set up, with better drivability. The tune ability has always been the key with Weber stuff. Not only can you tune up and down the range foe all or any given barrel, but you can tune sizing and flow characteristics as well.
     
  10. 32STUPRES
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    Might ask Jim Smith at Hot Rod Garage in Sand Springs, OK or ask someone how to get in touch with Doc Parsons...they both either know about Webers or can definitely put you in touch with someone who does...Good luck......Joe

    http://www.hot-rodgarage.com/index.htm - Jim and Jason Smith, owners
     
  11. TV
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    They are not hard to set up, first get the chokes right. Then get your jets and air correction jets correct. They will work almost as good as fuel injection. We are running one on our Bonneville car.
     
  12. TV
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    Oh yes, set up right they will perform like fuel injection.--TV
     
  13. mechanic58
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    I used to drag race VWs back in the 80s. I always ran 48 IDAs. I used to tune mine one cyl at a time. I always did it with my engine on my test stand though. I'd remove 3 spark plugs and run the engine on one cyl and tune it based on the sound of the exhaust note. I'd repeat the process for each cyl. It was the most effective way I ever found to do it. I'm not sure though how well that would work on a V8.
     
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  14. paul55
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    Inglese webers and front drive dist.
     

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  15. Duntov1967
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    Oh my, that is beautiful.
     
  16. Duntov1967
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    Paul may be messing with us. Although they look similar to Moser heads, the plug wires are coming out the side, not the top. Not a Hemi head. And it says 16 valve, not 32 valve. And why twin cam for only 8 valves? Maybe a 4 cyl. head sat on top of the SBC? LOL
     
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  17. Baumi
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    wow, I just found this thread, that´s some great info!
    Suscribed!
     
  18. madmike3434
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    I saw a set of 3 videos posted on U TUBE showing FAST FREDDIE showing how to tune the weber setup using a special gauge you can buy to measure the air intake down each of the 4 center throats in IDA 48's.

    Fast freddie was a big big seller of weber systems, similar to jim ingalese

    google it.

    mike
     
  19. gow589gow
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    When I got my Webers they were purple. I completely disassembled them, powder coated them then re-assembled them. I set the engine up on a stand and did the initial tuning. The whole process was real helpful to getting familiar with the carb:

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  20. LBH
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    I am amazed that no one has mentioned how easily the throttle shafts can be bent ..... which gets the butterflies out of sinc and makes it really tough on an IR manifold application ........ to synchronize the cylinders they have to be perfect ...........tp
     
  21. Leviman
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    I have a set of 48s on my ot beetle. Love 'em! Honestly they're not hard to tune, and the sound is fantastic. I'm going to put a set of dcoes on my pontiac ohc 6.
     
  22. paul55
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    65' 327 with inglese "maserati setup" and Summer's Bros. front dist. drive. Valve covers are the ones Gennie Shifter had about 30 yrs. ago. "Fake" dual overhead cam covers, but I thought they would look good with the webers, so have been looking for a few years for a set and finally found these. Makes the sbc look exotic, I think. Thanks for the nice comments all!
     
  23. Duntov1967
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    Glad you found those covers Paul. I have never seen those covers before. What goes on the front of them?

    BTW, Jim I. picked up that 8 stack with the covers that I mentioned to you. It seems he never saved a pair for himself. He got the entire package just to get the Inglese covers.
     
  24. paul55
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    I had been looking for the matching inglese covers as well, but ran across these. Still hoping to find a pr. of the inglese covers to match the webers. Glad Jim got em! He was my first call when I found the webers and to ask about valve covers. Super nice guy!
     
  25. hugh m
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    These aren't the fancy Webers, but I had such good luck with one one my previous Iron Duke motor decided to use them on this one, Going in a T.
     

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  26. tfeverfred
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  27. Another Ford system converted to dare I say EFI.
    70 boss 302 going in our 32 Roadster
     

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  28. big duece
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Nice! Like to see the '32 they are going in.
     
  29. Got a ways to go.
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  30. Yep you can buy trhe complete setup from Jim Inglese. Part number 4x48IDA

    jiminglese.com or 203 623 0659 it is $4.650.00
     

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