Unfortunatly, on a general forum when a question is asked, like the HAMB, everybody reads into it in a different way. Usually they are lookin for a quick way to make a buck(what is it worth thread) or are just complaining and wants sombody to listen to them. Now that we know what you really want, we can start over. You have asked the million dollar question. What is my time worth, only you can answer that. Have them go over with you there expenses and earnings statement in really general terms. That way you know how much margin is figured in. Maybe they need to raise there rates to cover hidden costs that aren`t readilly apparent. You need to know how much money you are making for them to figure out a decent wage for yourself. If the shop rate is $55 an hour, what about matarials cost. If you don`t use your share of insurance, do you get more pay. In a skilled profession, getting and doing the work is the easy part. it`s all the other crap that`ll drive you crazy. Health insurance will be one of your major expenses in life. It`ll go up every year, and almost impossible to budget for.