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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by InstantT, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. joel
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    It looks pretty good so far. Keep it up.
     
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  2. InstantT
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    I haven't posted in a while because my 58 driver is falling apart.
    Found this while doing the front suspension.
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    My homemade spring spreader wasn't as strong as I thought it would be. Oops!

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  5. InstantT
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    Hamb won't let me post photos!

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  6. InstantT
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    Homemade spring spreader buckled and caused shackle destruction.
    But, I finally got the bones split. 20180708_160852.jpeg 20180708_161313.jpeg 20180708_164736.jpeg 20180708_173826.jpeg

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  7. InstantT
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    I finally had a few minutes to mock it up and straighten the knuckles.
    I was pretty nervous, but hell, even glowing it takes a lot of force to twist. 20180722_005130.jpeg

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  8. joel
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    It looks good to me and I've done this a couple of times. Check to ensure the wishbone shackle hole is tipped to match the spring in the vertical plane also. There might be a small caster change ( increase).
     
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  9. InstantT
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    I was thinking about this.
    Right now they appear tipped down, but I'll have to get the axle at a normal height to check.

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  10. InstantT
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    Dumb question:
    I'm guessing I need to adjust the rod ends to determine parallelism with the spring.
    Drive side seems closer than passenger with the same amount of threads showing.
    Passenger side seems reasonably close to parallel.
    Can I hook the spring up first, then adjust the rod ends? Or is the spring not necessarily square?
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  11. joel
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    The spring is not necessarily square. The first check would be to check wheelbase on each side; if it is the same, then your probably good unless the rear end is not square in the chassis. Another measure would be from the rivet where the center brace (the one that was damaged on your car) fastens to the bottom lip of the frame rail to the opposite side kingpin. Compare to the same measurement on the other side.
    Yes, hook up the spring first.
     
  12. InstantT
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    10/4.
    I was worried that if my knuckle bends weren't square enough, then ball joint adjustment would only amplify that. But I suppose the bushings will compensate fore slight deviations.

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  13. InstantT
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    The more I play with the transverse setup, the more I think Henry had it way wrong.

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  14. Wheeliedave
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    Millions of Ford cars and trucks drove many millions of safe miles with their transverse spring setups. If such setups are set up correctly today, they will work as well or better than those designed and built by Ford years ago.
    The problem lies with people who set them up incorrectly !


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  15. InstantT
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    That's probably true.
    I do heavy mechanics and parallel leafs make so much sense to me. I'm sure I'm over thinking this. But, hey! I'm a first timer.
    This car is gonna be badass!

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  16. joel
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    If the bends aren’t parallel to the spring eyes, it will put the shackles in a bind. If the shackles go together pretty easily, you’re probably ok.


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  17. InstantT
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    They're pretty parallel right now, but adjusting the rod ends will throw that off very slightly.

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    He gets blamed for a LOT of things.
     
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  20. Put the spring on first, then attach the split wishbone ends. You can do this by hand. There is so much leverage with those long wishbones it's not hard.

    Also, why does that spring have a stock eye? You'll get another inch of drop with a reversed eye main leaf.
     
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  21. InstantT
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    It came with that eye.

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  22. If you want to get another inch drop, a spring shop will reverse that spring, or you can do it yourself, there are tech threads here on it. I would recommend it, the axle isn't enough drop in my opinion. STANCE IS EVERYTHING!

    EDIT: To give you an idea, a spring shop charged me $50 to reverse the eyes of the main leaf, remove a few leaves and install a spacer, so pretty cheap.
     
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  23. InstantT
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    This one is set up with the drop axle and 2 leafs removed.

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  24. InstantT
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    Quick update. Finished drilling for my engine mouns and started on the cylinder heads. 461 castings with 1.94 valves, but the chambers should be good for an extra point of compression.
    Unfortunately the guides need to be done. So off to the machine shop.
    Then engine assembly finally begins!!!!!!!!
    Holy smokes I can almost taste it.
    Also got the broken valve cover bolt out. 20180822_001729.jpeg 20180820_221115.jpeg

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  25. InstantT
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    Machine shop has everything. I decided to do the mag, surface, valve job, guides, and hot tank for about $275.
    The machinist asked why I thought 461 heads in a 39 ford were "period correct". Haha. He didn't get it.

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