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Projects Voyage of the "Dawn Treader"

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by InstantT, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. InstantT
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    That's my plan. I'm considering putting a fishplate overtop as well. We do that a lot on equipment at work.

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  2. InstantT
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    It's not rust. It's a stress fracture. I also had a 56 ford that was bought and lived its whole life in Morro Bay. It would disagree about rust in Cal. It was made of rust.

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  3. InstantT
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    Yeah, there are some cracks elsewhere. This spot just seemed like a pretty strong place, so I was surprised.

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  4. chevy57dude
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    The compliment was about the remarkable condition of your car, I wasn't calling the crack rust.
     
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  5. InstantT
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    I'm trying to wash this egg off my face right now. I am glad I don't have any rust repair to do on this thing.

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  6. Mr48chev
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    That looks like a superb start on a nice cruiser.
    I wonder if it is the same shade of green that is on this 40 that belongs to a long time friend of mine.
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  7. InstantT
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    That is the KIND!

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  8. InstantT
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    So this guy is going in the Dawn Treader. I'm swapping the heads for some vintage fuelies but Jegs has the seal kits on backorder. I also seem to have lost the carbs since moving three times.
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    I'm planning on using this to paint it and the trans will be gloss black.

    So question: has anyone done an engine in 1shot without their hardener? I was going to use rustoleum but didn't like the color choices. Threads here say 1shot is great, but no specifics on hardener or not.
    Any experience?

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  9. joel
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    I would use hardener every time, especially on driveline components


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  10. toml24
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    My dads car in about 1954. Believed to be a 1938 Ford Deluxe Tudor, it MIGHT be a 1939. I came home from the hospital in this a few years later.
    1938 Ford Deluxe Tudor at home.jpg
     
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  11. s55mercury66
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    That is a nice, solid looking '39.
     
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  12. InstantT
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  13. InstantT
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    I finally got my crossmember clearanced. Now I can finish cleaning and painting the frame and firewall.

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  14. That car has aged well. I like where you're headed with it.
     
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  15. InstantT
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    With a 6 and 4 year old, I'm heading there slow. But it is very exciting.

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  16. InstantT
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    Some success this weekend. Still slower than I'd hoped, but progress nonetheless.

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  17. 41woodie
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    You asked about not splitting the bones. I seem to recall it being done by spacing the ball down by using a second ball cap. You use longer bolts and nest one cap in the depression on the frame, then bolt a second cap on to secure the ball. I've never tried it but have heard it talked about, maybe someone with personal experience will jump in.
     
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  18. InstantT
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    It seems to me that splitting the bones is detrimental and should be avoided if possible. I hope someone has tried it with intact bones.

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    Don't know about the whole body but the hood and side panels are '38 Deluxe
     
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  20. 41woodie
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    After seeing your response I tried to resurrect the shattered remnants of my memory. Years ago I had a home built cross member that replaced the original transmission mount and provided a mounting spot for the ball on un-split bones. I finally threw it away realizing that I'd never use it. I could probably sketch it for you if needed.
    I'm pretty sure you would still have to remove or seriously modify the center section of the frame to accommodate the TH350. The best thought back then was that if you do split the bones don't take the legs clear out to the frame rails, just move them outboard enough to provide clearance. This would be the least change to the factory geometry.
    If you don't already know about it, check out Chassis Engineering there "kit" provides for the least disturbance to the bones and properly reinforces the X-member. I can tell you that installing their kit on a car with the body on the frame won't be fun but it can be done.
    http://www.chassisengineeringinc.com/
     
  21. Lowering the ball, I have heard about doing it but not done it, adds caster which can be a good thing.
     
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  22. dirt t
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    Please keep posting. Hope those helpers jump in and help dad.
     
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  23. joel
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    I'd also recommend the C.E. torque box replacement/ wishbone splitting kit. I've done 2 40's using it and it works very well. I'm posting a couple of pix of my frame. I had to make some mods to the C.E. pieces because of my trans choice, but no mods are needed for the Turbo 350. You have a good car to start with.
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    I did a 40 with a 327/ 350 turbo with this kit; follow the directions and drill the holes accurately and it' s done. The hard part is removing the torque box with the body on, but it can be done.
     
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  24. InstantT
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    I have their engine mounts, but might go with the TCI kit because I like the way they mount the tie rod ends horizontally rather than vertically.

    I'm not opposed to splitting them, but it looks like the turbo would almost sneak in there without the split. If it worked well, I figure a bunch of people would have responded already. Oh well, I've got a chopsaw.

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  25. InstantT
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    Is there a build thread on this one?

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  26. joel
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    yes, click on the link at the bottom ( in red) of my last post. I can't compare the TCI as I have never used it, but I don't see any real issues; it looks like nearly the same design. The torque box needs to be removed, but also needs replaced as it is the key to whatever rigidity the frames are born with.
     
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  27. deuceman32
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    Wait a minute......................
    Do you mean that these old cars came with FLOORS?
    Dammitt!!!!
     
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  28. InstantT
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    Yeah! The floors are a blessing, but it's gonna make the crossmember work a bitch.

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  29. InstantT
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    Not much to update. I built a new workbench and cleaned the garage a bit. I've been having fun with my 58 since nobody is buying it, and my continued work on the Dawn Treader is contingent on liquidating that asset.
    I'm going to dive back in soon and I'll be posting some updates.

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  30. InstantT
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    Summertime is rough for builds when you're a refrigeration guy, but I did manage to get the banjo out and the brackets for the leafs painted.

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    I also started on the power pak fuelies. They already have long slot rockers on em. Just need new a lap and new seals.

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    Some cleaning has begun of the engine. But I'll shelf that for now until its back on a rolling chassis.

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