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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I did look up the pics on pg 109. Thanks.

    On my replica Ford powered champ car I'm using a C4 auto trans. I'd like to come up with a locking torque converter so I can "lock it" in one of the lower gears and simulate the effect of running the in/out/UD boxes, while still keeping it drivable sans a push-off truck.
     
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    Did any of these cars have driveshaft guard tunnels? Were driveline failures rare?
     
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  3. 28dreyer
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    The tail piece casting of the in/out boxes was set up to accept the Ford torque tube, no guard needed.
     
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  4. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Did they shorten the torque tube? Isn't it tapered? Did the rear end drive the car through the I/O box?
     
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  5. 28dreyer
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    My V8-60 had the Ambler Box and the torque tube actually did not locate the rear axle, the rear cross spring in conjunction with the radius rods did that. The torque tube was not only shortened but made to telescope with the front half sliding over the rear half so you could attempt to change gears as described on the page 109 referenced above.

    Not sure I understand your last question but with both style boxes the power went from the front input shaft to the output shaft which was never on the same axis except with the Ambler style internal ring gear box when running the1:1 blocker gear.
     
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    This is very informative, thanks. I realized that the output shaft would be on a lower axis than the crankshaft but hadn't considered the 1:1 scenario. I assume your V8-60 had rather tall 16" tires? What differential gear ratio did you run?
     
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  7. This is what the shortened Ford Torque Tube looks like! millermaint001_zps2aab5d11 (2018_02_11 18_51_06 UTC).jpg
     
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    All early midgets ran on 12” tires, 13” came on around 1950 give or take, and continues to this day.

    The ring and pinion were a 4.11 to one.
     
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  9. Mumbles
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    1965 I believe. Colby Scroggin with trophy girl and his team, Jay (my Dad), Ed and Bobby (my uncle). The white jackets were borrowed for the picture. Blair's Speed Shop car running a little DeSoto Hemi.

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  10. sramoa
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    A newspaper article from early 1963 thinks the Pendleton Builders Spl. was a Pfrommer car. The owner was Ben Moskal and he changed the Offy engine to Chevy.
     
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  11. Hi, I was just given my Grandfathers family photo album from many years in storage. In it I found a photo marked George 1937 Indianapolis Indiana. Has anyone have an idea who this might be?? Thanks.
     

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    See it a bit better

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  13. Thank you! Computer not my forte. Found three names associated with the first name George for 1937 Indy roster. 2 entrants and one relief driver. Possibly someone recognizes his face!
     
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  14. The37Kid
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    Nice photo, based on the size of the car and that bolt on wheel on the car behind it, it isn't at the Brickyard, maybe a Sprint Car track in town. Bob
     
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  15. Thanks I agree. Looking at cars entered in 1937 this sprinter was outclassed for sure so assume a track near Indy. Saw the other cars hub cap so assumed as you did. Do not know what other dirt tracks were close to Indy in 1937. My book on American speedways show few tracks in Indy per say. I have 2 shopping bags of photos from that time period to look over. Some have names so might get lucky matching up face to this one. My 90 year old uncle just died this week and I was going to sit down with him to ask about these photos as soon as he was able to come home out of nursing facility! He was the only family member on this side left. I was given the photos just last week and my uncle passed a few days later!! Thanks to all on the help.
     
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    Sorry for the loss of your Uncle, post some more photos, we'll try to ID the cars and maybe the drivers. Bob
     
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  17. Thank you. Getting back to normal! I will dig thru more photos and separate race cars from the family photos next week. Chasing a lead on who "George" was by a family member. Slim but will investigate. I did see a photo of a George Barringer. He looks close to the George in the photo but!!!
     
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