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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Rootie Kazoootie
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    Rex Easton Reading 58. 3x-14-b-easton read 58.jpg
     
  2. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Rootie Kazoootie
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    Cageless sprints, Ziggy Snider and chicks with big hair...........I miss the 60s. 3x-14-a- 60s.JPG
     
  3. carl s
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    carl s
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    Search for The Malloy Spl.
    Some recent news from Tom Malloy regarding his search for the Malloy Special remnants
    note: It was the sister car to the Sid Street Spl - photos of which were posted by Rootie a few months ago
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20797739399/in/album-72157633528002567/

    "
    UPDATE 3-11-2016
    Carl,
    Update on the hunt for the Malloy Spl. – Tom found/bought the car that has Emmett’s offy engine #144. We also now have the actual trophy that Ernie Lowe (driver) won at Sharon Speedway in 1962 (see photo). His son Denny brought it here from Ohio and donated it to the Foundation. Ooooooooooh we are getting closer…….even my bones are excited…….now we just need to shake loose the old chassis. The hunt is still on.
    Tom is at Amelia Island and all is going well.
    Be well,
    Jeanne Caliva
    Tom Malloy’s Office
    Malloy Foundation, Inc."

    Past sequence of inquiries

    From: carl schulz [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:44 AM
    To: paul weisel
    Cc: tom malloy
    Subject: Search for The Malloy Spl.
    Paul Weisel
    Eastern Auto Racing Historical Society <a href="http://www.earhs.org/" rel="nofollow">www.earhs.org/</a>
    From: Carl Schulz, Indio, CA
    For Tom Malloy and Jeanne Caliva – Malloy Motorsports, Corona, CA.
    Hello again Paul,
    There has been a search going on for the remains of the 1953-4 Malloy Special Indycar, later to become a sprintcar that was last seen and campaigned in 1970s PA. Hence this request to you and your PA associates for any info that can help in locating the car.
    Tom Malloy et All have been searching the past few years for the current remains of the 1953 (Emmett) Malloy Special. One of two built by Bob Pankratz – the sister car resides in the PNW whilst the Malloy Car went through a number of transformations and was last seen as a sprint car in the PA area in the 70s before being sold by Akron based Hobe Nestor.
    I’m pretty sure I contacted you when I first began helping Tom look for the car via the internet two years ago but just in case you missed it, here’s the data once again.
    We’ve had thousands of ‘hits’ and some leads that have led to the current ‘last seen’ data.
    Would you see what you can do to help Tom locate the remnants of this car?
    Very much appreciate any help you can offer.
    Also want to thank you for the EARHS Newsletters you have forwarded to me.
    Best Regards
    Carl

    Photo id and history follow:
    This letter is the most current communication in this search: by Thomas J. Schmeh, NSCHoF



    The following sequence is from past search attempts.


    Malloy Spl Jimmy Reece - 1954 start 7th finish 17th - Bob Pankratz built car, Offy power owned and entered by Emmett J. Malloy, black, red, white #25
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20362447174/in/album-72157633528002567/">www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20362447174/in/album-7...</a>
    photos by Mitch G at AutoRacingMemories.com
    M.Hart"Thank you Mitch. I have a little more info. The car was sold by Malloy in 1955. It then became the Morcroft Special driven by Jimmy Davies 1956 #3 then driven by Gene Hartley in 57-58 #88, Eddie Johnson in 1955 #5. I will post some pictures of the car when it was last seen. It is thought to be in the midwest. It has a Chevy in it with a roll cage. It is #63 In the photo, the car still has the long brake handle on the left side. Thank you again."

    Malloy Spl Reece now on the dirt , Langhorne, PA in 1954
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20958817146/in/album-72157633528002567/">www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20958817146/in/album-7...</a>


    Malloy Spl George Amick in the Pankratz, races Andy Linden at Milwaukee, WI in 1955
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20975227402/in/album-72157633528002567/">www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20975227402/in/album-7...</a>

    Malloy Spl last seen 2
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20992551591/in/album-72157633528002567/">www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20992551591/in/album-7...</a>
    The car was sold by Malloy in 1955. It then became the Morcroft Special driven by Jimmy Davies 1956 #3 then driven by Gene Hartley in 57-58 #88, Eddie Johnson in 1955 #5. I will post some pictures of the car when it was last seen. It is thought to be in the midwest. It has a Chevy in it with a roll cage. It is #63 In the photo, the car still has the long brake handle on the left side.see comments below


    Malloy Spl last seen-Ernie Lowe after winning 100 lapper at Sharon Speedway
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20796994190/in/album-72157633528002567/">www.flickr.com/photos/91981316@N06/20796994190/in/album-7...</a>
    The car was sold by Malloy in 1955. It then became the Morcroft Special driven by Jimmy Davies 1956 #3 then driven by Gene Hartley in 57-58 #88, Eddie Johnson in 1955 #5. I will post some pictures of the car when it was last seen. It is thought to be in the midwest. It has a Chevy in it with a roll cage. It is #63 In the photo, the car still has the long brake handle on the left side. The Sid Street car is the one that went to the Pacific NW. That is the sister car to the one we are looking for.
    The Malloy Special was sold to Morcroft and became the Morcroft Special car #88 driven by Gene Hartley and car #3 with Jimmy Davies and #27 with Tony Bettenhousen.
    Jeanne
    For Tom Malloy
    Tom’s Response to Jalopy Journal- he said you would post it for him :
    Rottie,
    Bob Pankratz built two champ cars. The first car was for Sid Street that appeared at Indy in 1951 and 1952 but did not qualify either year – this is the car you are talking about that Buzz Barton drove.
    The second car (which is the one I am looking for), Bob started building in 1952 (it looked exactly like the Sid Street car). It showed up for the first time in the 1953 at Indy but failed to qualify. It returned in 1954 to qualify 7th and finished 17th. It returned again in 1955 to qualify 15th and finished 33rd. Jimmy Reece drove it both times as the Malloy Special. I hope this information clears-up thing referencing the two car and which we are looking for.

    UPDATE 3-11-2016
    Carl,
    Update on the hunt for the Malloy Spl. – Tom found/bought the car that has Emmett’s offy engine #144. We also now have the actual trophy that Ernie Lowe (driver) won at Sharon Speedway in 1962 (see photo). His son Denny brought it here from Ohio and donated it to the Foundation. Ooooooooooh we are getting closer…….even my bones are excited…….now we just need to shake loose the old chassis. The hunt is still on.
    Tom is at Amelia Island and all is going well.
    Be well,
    Jeanne Caliva
    Tom Malloy’s Office
    Malloy Foundation, Inc.
     
  4. glad to have you back, enjoy all the pix,
    mlight9
     
  5. Jim Nise
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    Rootie, that isn't 1958 Sachs. My guess is 1957. Car had a roll bar in 1958, eddie wore a silver helmet then.
     
  6. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Roadsters on dirt.

    Jimmy Reece, Hoosier 100 1956. 3x-15-a-reece 56.JPG

    Jim WcWithey, DuQuion 1956. 3x-15-b mcw 56.JPG

    Johnny Boyd, Phoenix 1957. 3x-15-c-phx 57.JPG
     
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  7. Jim Nise
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    Interestingly, only 1 roadster ever led a dirt race. Johnny Boyd, above led some of the 1957 Phoenix 100. Wild race. Jimmy Bryan leading, goes through the fence lap 97, keeps it running, comes back on track and catches Pat O'connor for the win.
     
  8. Rootie Kazoootie
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    A.J. at the Hoosier 100 during his stint with Hopkins 1962. 3x-16-a 62.JPG
     
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  9. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Bill Cantrell and car owner Lou Fageol, Indy 49. 3x-16-b-fageol-cantrell-1949.JPG
     
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  10. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Rollie Beale Terre Haute 68. 3x-16-c-beal- th 68.JPG
     
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  11. IMCAbrat29
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    Chris recently contacted me about Gus Schrader's Offy. I imagine it's in a museum somewhere, does anyone know the location of the car?
    Chris Holland
    Mar 12th, 1:27pm
    I have an article from 1983 circle track magazine of this restored Schrader's Sprinter car #5. I would love to find this car just to see it. My Grandfather was 'Wild Bill' Anderson who was killed in this car at a race in Mitchell Indiana. Is there anyone who I can contact to see where this car is today? It would mean a lot to me, thanks.
     
  12. hopkins1
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    Rootie, it`s strange that Beckley had the hand brake hooked up for a dirt race. The hand brake was for a second set of calipers . Great photo !
     
  13. flatheadtommy
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    the great Ted Horn at Patterson , N.J. IMG_0411.jpg
     
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    New England favorite, Jerry Russo IMG_0408.JPG
     
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    a young Johnnie Kay at Thompson, Conn. IMG_0409.JPG
     
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    Joe Sostilio at Weymouth fairgrounds in 1939 IMG_0405.JPG
     
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    Sostilio takes the win at Weymouth, 1939 IMG_0406.JPG
     
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    Art Rousseau in the Pete Galka 4 port Riley IMG_0404.JPG
     
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    Topfield, Mass. in the late thirties IMG_0402.JPG
     
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    another shot the same day IMG_0403.JPG
     
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  21. indyrjc
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    USAC had an "on again/off again" rule requiring a backup brake system around 1961 and 1962. Some mechanics and builders complied with it and others apparently didn't. At any rate for some reason it was apparently never seriously enforced. Watson was one that complied with the rule and you will notice an outside hand brake on Ward's 500 winner in 1962. Obviously, the Agajanian car that Parnelli was leading the 500 with did not have a backup brake of any kind and he ended up running into tires to try to stop in the pits during the 500.

    Watson had two sets of single spot Halibrand calipers on the rear of his cars with one set being operated by the brake pedal and the second set operated by the external brake lever. Beckley likely did something similar.

    Notice also in that photo that Foyt is wearing a Sam Browne belt and no shoulder harness. Double "over the shoulder" harnesses attached to the lap belt were not made mandatory by USAC until the 1963 season. If that sounds late it wasn't until something like 1969 or 70 that Formula One made any kind of seat belt mandatory. Someone here may know the exact year but it was quite a bit later than the USAC rule.
     
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  22. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Rootie, Do you know what powered this car? It looks like a 4-valve inline six?
     
  23. DDDenny
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    Wow, 800 pages.
    Kudos you guys!
     
  24. Rootie Kazoootie
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    I believe it is a Fageol truck/bus engine, but don't know if the 4 valve head was production or made for racing. Capture 1949-1.JPG
     
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  25. 28dreyer
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    I think you are spot on Rootie. The Fageol production bus, truck, and industrial engine was a SOHC 12 valve cross flow utilizing rocker arms for valve actuation.

    My guess on the engine is that it was a special 18 or 24 valve head Fageol made for his major racing interest which was Gold Cup hydroplanes which Cantrell drove for him at times although Fageol also drove.
     
  26. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Rodger Ward, Raleigh 1952. 3x-17-a ward raleigh 52.JPG
     
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  27. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Tony Willman in the Belanger car, Indy 38. 3x-17-b- willman-2.JPG
     
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  28. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Bobby Unser, Wib Spaulding, Winchester 1966. 3x-17-c-spald-66.JPG
     
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  29. DDDenny
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    I know this is a picture thread, so I'll understand if you guys don't want to muddy the thread up with a lot of tech talk. I'd like some details on the sbc engines of these cars of mid to late 50's. If I recall, Traco was one of the big name engine builders. I know it would be easy to do a Google search, but would rather hear it first hand from you guys.
     
  30. hopkins1
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    Well I feel stupid,checked my photos and that handle is in all of them. Guess it`s nothing four calipers, a brake handle, master cylinder and brake lines wont fix.
     

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