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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. efishone
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    I've read that this is the car Jud Larson suffered his fatal in, then under Ward Dunseth
    sponsership.
     
  2. efishone
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    If sprinters looked like this now, I'd still be going to the races!
     
  3. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Yes....err...no.....err... kinda..... well, sorta :rolleyes: Actually its been hashed around here a few times. Its been said after the N.B. crash the frame was toast and replaced with a spare/duplicate and few original parts remained by 1966, so it really cant be considered as the original car. You be the judge.
     
  4. BZNEIL
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  5. easter
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    Happy New Year everybody. My son drove 1400 miles from Denver and I'm in bed with the flu. What a deal. Hope your new year begins better than my old year ends for me.
     
  6. Bill Chadbourne
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    Happy New Year to all. Get well Easter! Bill
     
  7. 28dreyer
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    Just accidentally tripped over the January 1991 Open Wheel with the center pages being Ralph Steele's painting.

    Micheal is right-on except the caption says it's the June 29th event, about halfway through the 25 lap feature.

    Ralph was a commercial artist who lived in Jasper Indiana. He had a lifelong love of open wheel cars and airplanes. He had built a homemade and had bought a Pinto powered Vintage midget in his later years. That got sold and he had a 30's style big car built with a flathead Model B.

    His cars were always perfectly finished and kept immaculate, part of the artist in him.
     
  8. PK
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    I pray you're feeling better by now and your son has a safe trip back to Denver. I have family between Boulder and Longmont. Happy New Year!!
     
  9. easter
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    See Rootie, you're not alone out there. I've been working on a project at the local lumber yard and a good guy here is packing for his move to Golden. Are you starting to feel crowded Rootie?
     
  10. Rootie Kazoootie
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    I wish I was!!!! The're trying their best to turn this place into another L.A. :mad: And in the process they've covered up most all the old race tracks with houses, freeways and shopping malls! :mad::mad::mad:
     
  11. Marty Strode
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    Here is Len Sutton with his 1954 entry.
     

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  12. guffey
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    guffey

    I thought I would post some photos of this project I bought recently. It might not fit the criteria but maybe it is of interest. It has had lots of changes over the years. I wondered if anyone might remember seeing it


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  13. Rootie Kazoootie
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  14. indybigjohn
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    Wasn't Chuck Stevenson Vuky's co-driver for at least one of those Carreras? I remember a (probably exaggerated) story about him continually criticizing Bill's driving. Supposedly, as they went off the road on a hill, Vuky said, "Okay, you son of a b***h, you drive!"
     
  15. guffey
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    guffey

     
  16. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Rootie Kazoootie
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    from Colorado

     
  17. guffey
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    guffey

     
  18. Rootie Kazoootie
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    That would be Indy roadster size. But without knowing what has been changed it's pretty hard to say its origins as the chassis were quite similar among the old roadster builders. The cowling suggests it had drag link steering at one point and it is rather distinctive in shape, that may be a clue.
     
  19. BZNEIL
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    Very cool what ever it is. Is the rear end in it centered or off-set. The rear upper frame rails, how they bend up over the axle then slant down toward the tail look somewhat Kurtis. It looks like the upper and lower bars would have met and been the rear tank mount originally.
     
  20. guffey
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    guffey

    That and the jack points also here is another shot

    guffeystuff 014.jpg
     
  21. pavementends
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    Nice mention of 1971 Indy rookie Denny Zimmerman in Speedway Illustrated January issue...something about planting grass about 50 years ago. Whaaat? And I thought he was a racer.
     
  22. Denny Zimmerman
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  23. sideways27
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    I agree, there seems to be some Kurtis there. I am going to see Arlen Friday and I will show him these pictures he may be able to shed some more light on the frame.
     
  24. unassembled
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    That wasn't Stevenson it was Vern Houle. I heard this story the first time from Don Weaver. Joe Scalvo's article can be read here

    http://joescalzowriter.com/PDF'S/amigos.pdf

    But here's the short version. Reprinted without permission.
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    Houle was the only mechanic who would consent to ride shotgun with him; he and Vukovich took a shine to each other. They both enjoyed swearing, preferable at each other, s---head being the expletive of choice.


    Off the road five times on the race’s opening day, they still finished second. On day two, they hit the tall mountains.


    “Watch it, s.h., you’re losing it again!” Houle instructed, just as he and Vukovich sailed off a precipice backward, their Lincoln crash-landing onto a ledge. Houle got his belts off first, opened the passenger car, immediately scrambled back inside, and re- belted.


    “What’s the matter, s.h?” Vukovich inquired. “Keep your belts on,” Houle advised. “There’s still a drop of a couple hundred feet out there. She’s going to go so more.” They had to kick apart the windshield to escape, but escape they did. And Houle, who for the following 30 years continued having adventures as a wild soldier-of-fortune mechanic everywhere from Indianapolis to Le Mans to Daytona to Pikes Peak, never stopped reveling in his standing as the one mechanic with the intestinal fortitude to ride with demigod Vukovich. Sometimes Houle affirmed and other times denied, that just as the Lincoln sailed over the mountain lip, the words Vukovich snarled were, “Here, s.h., you drive.”
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  25. cg5
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    Don't know about the roadster but did spy an American LaFrance sitting there.

    Curt Grogan
     
  26. carl s
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    Some additional historical notations from Michael Ferner courtesy Autosport F1 Nostalgia Forum:
    Re: The photo, the events around it and Jack Fox's Illustrated History of Sprint Car Racing.
    http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=152220
    Thank you Michael!

     
  27. arcarace
    Joined: May 20, 2008
    Posts: 18

    arcarace
    Member

    The cowl on that roadster looks very familiar, if that's the original cowl that is. I'll look through my USAC sprint car history, looks like a lot of Weld influence.
     
  28. Rootie Kazoootie
    Joined: Nov 27, 2006
    Posts: 8,134

    Rootie Kazoootie
    Member
    from Colorado

    Similar to the 'beer wagon' cowl.
     

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  29. BZNEIL
    Joined: May 28, 2005
    Posts: 659

    BZNEIL
    Member

    interesting, anybody have any pics of a Grant King roadster chassis?
     
  30. guffey
    Joined: Mar 23, 2008
    Posts: 851

    guffey

    I think the fiberglass parts are probably Grant King but I suspect that was added at some point of updating the car ?
     

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