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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. indybigjohn
    Joined: May 22, 2008
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    The first one I saw do it was Shim Malone. I started doing it with ASA. Even used double greens on the starts once in a while.

    In regard to Johnny Hicks, I'll bet he felt safer down on the track. I used to love working from the track. Ask Jim Graybeal, he'll tell you that I got that kind of training with the old UMRA TQ circuit. There were a few nights when I thought I was gonna wear one of those little rascals home. Before they put cages on 'em, I actually jumped one.

    And to whoever mentioned Vic Lipkey - yes, he was a great one.

    Oh yeah, thanks for the kind words, Old Dawg. I kinda wish I had worked for you, too.
     
  2. TommyA19
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    I imagine most have heard of the "discussion" that Nick Fornoro had with AJ Foyt after Foyt kinda didn't obey a certain flag that Nick was waiving at him? Can you imagine big AJ and little Nick in a discussion, and Nick coming out on top? It happened. Today, Nick's daughter-in-law. Anne Fornoro, handles the PR for the Foyt team.
     
  3. PK
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    Indy Big John and Bob Easter thanks a bunch... I remember during pace laps someone might swerve toward Mr. Hicks just to make him jump. Of course there would be a "meeting" after the heat race in ref. to the aforementioned.
    PK
     
  4. LEE GREENAWALT
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    1950 "500" winner Johnnie Parsons - Kurtis/Offy average speed - 124.022 MPH

    Johnnie Parsons had a most enviable record with this Ed Walsh-owned, Offenhauser-powered Kurtis-Kraft. Taking over the car ( then painted red ) durning the 1948 season, Parsons won the final AAA Championship race of the year at DuQuoin Ill. In 1949, he finished second in his first "500" start, after which he claimed the AAA National Championship titla by winning five major events, all of which were conducted on dirt tracks. In 1950-the car now yellow and sponsored by Wynn's-Parsons was running in front when the "500" was halted by a downpour at 138 laps; Declared the winner, he had led for 115 laps. The car was the sold to Jim Robbins and in 1951, East Coast dirt track specialist Mike Nazaruk made his "500" debut and finished second. enjoy! :D
     

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  5. CTtoPA
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    That DuQuoin race he won was October 10, 1948. Should
    be a very significant date for all race fans!
     
  6. TommyA19
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    You got it! And two days later, another driver - Ritter, met the same fate as Horn - and they both kept their cars at Gasoline Alley in Paterson, NJ.

    An oddity - Horn and Schindler only entered one "indy" car race on the same day and neither qualified.
     
  7. Steve Bonesteel
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    Friends came for dinner tonight and brought photos they took at Calistoga this year, this one got to me. Kenny Van Blargen and I pitted together. All my best wishes Kenny. Off to Fontana in the morning.
     

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  8. hlfuzzball
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    [​IMG]

    You can't fool me,that's a Ford Fusion ! (The grille that is )
     
  9. Dadburgess
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    Another Johnny Shipman THE BOSS story - Salem, mid-summer July/August midget race, very hot humid day, remember to be the consi.
    Field was jockeying and jacking around with the start, NOT to Shipman's liking. Shipman had his fill of it, jumped down from the flagstand, went to the the concession stand and returned to the flagstand, where he refreshed himself with an ice cold Coke to the delight of the sweltering field idling past. They got his message.
     
  10. carl s
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    Thursday afternoon at Fontana Route 66 Classic

    Old Dawg was pulling in with his Miller Ford as I was leaving

    me and Bill Barringer

    let the fun begin tomorrow

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Joshua Shaw
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    Cool pic CarlS!!

    It's been a while. Been slamming on the Milton/Miller. Here are some progress shots.

    State we are in now= Car has been driven with Body on it. (Pictures ten pages back) Sent Body out for paint. Will get body back this week, Going back trough and finalizing a MILIION lil things that needed more work.

    What's below=

    Full body shots

    Original Pictures of the car (and twin car)

    The Re-Jetting process- Run it, see where in the throttle stage the engine needs to be richer or lean and change.. I ran it, pulled the stacks, Changed Jets and ran it again 5 times.

    Building the Linkage for the Steering wheel operated Spark advance

    Little "End Clamps" I drew up for Don (the machinest) to make. Jim told me what He wanted, I drew it, Don made it.. and they worked Great!




    Enjoy!
     

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  12. Joshua Shaw
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    More..

    Vent for Rear End

    Checking and re- adjusting Hand Trans break (what actually will STOP the car at the moment!) :p

    Chrome got done on second Hand pump.. switched out.

    Rebuilt water pump due to a small leak

    Two of the unions on the Water manifold were leaking at the block, so I had to pull the Block side covers and re-do.

    Finished, and fine tuned the Hand crank


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    She'll be at INDY. See ya'll there! I'll post mor pics of her as I get a chance!

    J Shaw
     

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  13. carl s
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    Josh,
    You build with a passion.
    It is your gift to the tribe.
     
  14. indybigjohn
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    Josh, you're a throwback. You can build one from the ground up.
     
  15. Joshua Shaw
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    Thanks! ...a lot of guys on here can. I'm just glad were all in one place swaping stories. ;)
     
  16. Spoken with the modesty of a man with a black eye........

    HG :cool:
     
  17. moe#69
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    Hello, Finally my favorite month!!!!!!
    Its getting closer to the big day!
     

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  18. Bob Cicconi
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    Great work! That must sound pretty weird with the 8 straight stacks and no collector!
     
  19. Denny Zimmerman
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    Moe#69, I saw that picture and for a second I wondered what that was all about, then I saw the Pagota and that answered it. Wow that's old....now I know where the term "Pit Box" came from. Guess I had never seen a picture of what the old pits were like. Denny Z
     
  20. jjones752
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    Those are the updraft carbs, Bob. You can see the tailpipe peeking out from behind the fuel tank in this shot.

    Josh, was there any kind of baseline setup book still available to start figuring out the jetting?

    I get more envious with every posting. Can't wait to see it at the Speedway.
     

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  21. Buildy
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    I sure wish I could see this car and the results of your craftsmanship in the flesh,Josh!
     
  22. Bob Cicconi
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    I feel like such an idiot! I thought they were exhaust stubs! Don't tell anyone, promise?
     
  23. Buildy
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    Hey Bob,

    Don`t feel bad,some of the earliest race cars had single pipes for each exhaust port. They sounded like cannons going off and flames shot out the pipes!
     
  24. metal bender
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    Hey , thats what I, thuoght also , a little stunado goes along way. For get about it . :rolleyes:
     
  25. moe#69
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    from Joliet IL

    Hello, Guys. Wondering if this car had two rear ends or just A extra axle? Dose anyone have info on this car? :confused:
     

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  26. wilburshawfan
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    from Indiana

    Great work Josh. Can't wait to see the Milton/Miller at the Speedway. Do you folks have a schedule as to when you plan on getting the car to the track? Will it join all the winners in the museum? Will it get out like the other cars on display on community day? I know TOO many questions right? There several earlier winners that will be on display but for my money this will be the oldest car there that REALLY looks like a race car.
     
  27. Buildy
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    One was a tag axle on the Pat Clancey Spl. It was about putting more rubber on the track surface. The tag axle was later removed and run as a conventional Dirt Champ car.
     
  28. gearguy
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    Can anyone confirm the story that the former Pat Clancy 6 wheeler -cut down to a 4 wheel sprinter- was involved in a fatal CRA wreck in the 1963/65 time frame? I'm trying to recall where I heard/read that.

    Anyone have photos of AJ Watson's recreation of the 6 wheeler? How about the Faegol Twin Coach dual engine car? Any recreations of it around?

    I love weird race cars.

    Chuck Schultz
    Winfield, Illinois
     
  29. moe#69
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    Hello, I was thinking that, it just looked like A addition.
    Thanks for the info.
     
  30. wilburshawfan
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    from Indiana

    I belive I read a few months ago in SprintCar & Midget that the Pat Clancy six wheeler later was turned into a sprint car owned by famed Hoosier car owner Dizz Wilson. Johnny Rutherford was one of the cars drivers!
     

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