FIRST ... Lee THANKS for posting them. Although I too more enjoy the older cars .. cageless, with rounder noses, etc. .... I can't say that (to a lesser extent) that I don't also enjoy these cars from the 70's and 80's .... especially if they don't have wings ..... even though I've seen some damned good winged races over the years too. At least they don't look like the slope nose, straight paneled, wedge shaped, as pretty as a door stop, butt ugly, no personality (for lack of a better word) , vinyl lettered cars of today!!!! Maybe not to us "old farts" (Jason's not one) .... but these cars of the 70's & 80's are now obsolete antiques and being sought and restored as such .. maybe by a slightly younger .. but none the less a senior generation. As unsightly as they are, cages have saved lives and we have many drivers among us today, that otherwise probably wouldn't have been. Hey, our own Denny Zimmerman has regularly driven one of the slope nose, straight paneled, wedge shaped, as pretty as a door stop, butt ugly, no personality, probably vinyl lettered midgets this year at the Whip City Speedway in Massachusetts and as much as I dislike the look of those cars I KNOW that I'd thoroughly ENJOY seeing him compete in it. Josh Shaw started this thread .. 1969 & older, etc.. Maybe if we're unhappy with some pictures or such posted here, rather than jumping all over someone ... maybe we should PM or eMail Josh and let him handle it in his own way. I think once in awhile we have to give some slack to someone as talented to Lee. ANYHOO ... THANKS again Lee .. I enjoyed those pictures .... just maybe not quite as much as I would've if the were pre 1970.