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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Bobert
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    The Ross-Page Spl.,what a beautiful car!
     
  2. Flipper
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    What year did that car race?
     
  3. Rootie Kazoootie
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    1946-48, with a 9th place best finish, I believe.
     
  4. sideways27
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    Violet Springs,

    Great pictures any history to go with them? and whats up with the 41 Willys? Cool hot rod.
     
  5. Rootie Kazoootie
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    The famous (or maybe infamous) Pat Clancy Spl., generally credited with being the first Indy car to use solid disc wheels. The 6 wheel version has Jackie Holmes up in 1949, the #12 is Duane Carter and then Freddie Agabashian. My understanding is that this is all the same car, but really don't know that for sure. If, in fact, it is, it looks to be heavily modified from the 6 to 4 wheel version, including what appears to be the addition of a model A rear spring on the front (?)
     

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  6. Rags To Richs
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    1952 INDY



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  7. Sprintcar10
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  8. Dale F. Thanks for the info re Watson & the roadster he is re-working, ml9.
     
  9. Sprintcar10
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    Mine as well is missing the dash plate. I am still searching for its history. One guy told me the combination of a space frame, spring front with stacked rear bars as on my car was uncommon. If I run into any four bar info I'll pass it along.

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  10. violet springs
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    The pic that is labeled A.D. Barnes and Betty was taken at Sharon Speedway in Hartford, Ohio. Betty is my grandmother. The other pics I have no imfo on. The pic of the Willys was taking the day I bought it. I am in the process of rebuilding it as a 60-style gasser, there are more pics of the Willys in my profile.
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  11. tex44
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    Quote:
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    LONG SHOT, Anyone know of or have information regarding any 1937 Hillegass Midget's. I have one and am seeking any information or where I can find info. I have done research on the internet but have met with limited results. This could be a great project, just not sure what I have gotten myself into here.
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    Just to update this link, it is now www.texasopenwheel.com

    Come on by and browse the photo's.
     
  12. sideways27
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    For anyone who might be interested there is a midget for sale on ebay. It appears to be a early 38 to 40 Richter Midget with a Hinderson air cooled motor. The grill is in question as all Richter's I have seen in his book use vertical bars and they are inset behind the cowl. Richter did build midgets with Henderson motors. This could be a great buy at this price. I am in the middle of a project and out of room or I would be interested in this one. Richters are rare, even Roy could not find one when he wanted to restore one of his own midgets.
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    Here is a car that currently is on Ebay that was listed before and the bidding got up to 6700.00 and he didn&#8217;t sell it. So it is hard to say what the value of these old midgets are.<o:p></o:p>
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    Thanks tex44
     
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  13. Rootie Kazoootie
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    FWIW-Floyd Roberts only AAA win did come at Indy 1938, however it was in the #23 Burd Piston car with a much darker paint scheme. Either this pic was mis-labled or possibly it is Roberts at a non-AAA "outlaw" race. Also the guard rail doesn't look to be Indy. Hard to say for sure really.
     

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  14. john56h
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    Check out this video...vintage midget, dry lakes and model car racing:

    http://video.yahoo.com/watch/12221/1578900

    <a href="http://video.yahoo.com/watch/12221/1578900"><img width="158" height="111" src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sch/cn/v/v0/w35/12221_320_192.jpeg" alt="Old Time Race Cars @ Yahoo! Video" title="Old Time Race Cars @ Yahoo! Video" /></a>
     
  15. BZNEIL
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    If a typical sprint car is around 40" setback to the rear end, what is the typical setback of a Champ car?
     
  16. indyrjc
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    I believe that photo is actually of Cliff Bergere at IMS in 1938. There was still just a guardrail on long parts of the front straight until after WWII. Bergere is in the #9 Karft Real Rye Special which was a Myron Stevens chassis with a supercharged Miller engine. The year is correct but the photo is mislabled.
     
  17. gninc
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    BZNEIL; my drawings of a Grant King Offy powered dirt champ car show firewall to center of rear axle to be 48"
     
  18. jimg12
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    The video of the gas powered models was great. I have a 1942 Hilliard streamlinner Dad got in 1942. Don Edmonds has a big collection of them and has built some [from scratch].
    On the Pat Clancy 6-wheeler. They did make it a normal champ car and I am pretty sure Jim Davies won with it. A.J. Watson built a copy of it a few years ago. Beatuiful car
     
  19. Joshua Shaw
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    Would explain why it looks like someone tried to rub the name off...
     
  20. KIRK!
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    Does this thread still get checked? If so...

    Anyone recognize this steering box? Neither Matt nor I know who made this. It's going in the Legion Special, so it'd be nice to know what it is. Thanks!


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  21. Joshua Shaw
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    200+ pages and I'm still seeing a lot new names and first time posters...

    WELCOME!!!

    I keep meeting guys at shows that are watching, reading, and/or catching up..

    The more the better! Tell your friends bring a pal.

    The amount of knowlege on here blows me away. The only way younger guys like me can learn this shit is to listen to older guys that were there. What's great about this deal is that I don't have to try to remember every word as it said and and try to retain it later...
    Here it is IN PRINT!

    It is writen down, discussed, some times corrected, afirmed, seconded and discussed again!

    Phenominal!

    Thanks you all for contributing.

    And thank you Ryan (creator of the HAMB)
    We all owe Ryan a big thanks.

    Joshua Shaw

    P.S. Yeah, I agree.. this would make a hell of a book!
     
  22. Rootie Kazoootie
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    The restored Sam Hanks Richter midget.
     

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  23. Rootie Kazoootie
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    With all the Daytooona stuff starting up this week.........:)
     

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  24. Jim Dieter
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    Junior ???
     
  25. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Yep, 1963, didn't qualify.
     
  26. Jim Dieter
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    Hmmm...learn something every day. missed that one.
     
  27. Yep, walked out of the garage after the first practice, and went home. Said there wasn't enough sheet metal around him, seeing the tires scared him.
     
  28. Spike Ruth
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    This is the Dutch Culp Offy. I bought it in 1967 and raced it both on dirt and pavement until being crippled in a flip at Selinsgrove. I sold it to Paxton and Buster Warke, and they did a great job of restoring it.
     
  29. indybigjohn
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    Rootie, is that the Sam Hanks midget that was stolen? If so, I heard it was recovered after some time, and identified by the man who made the upholstery.
     
  30. Rootie Kazoootie
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    I don't know about it being stolen, but it was restored by Chuck Porter, in So. Cal, some years back. Apparently, shortly after restoring the car he died of a heart attack, but not before both Hanks and Richter examined the car and declared it to be "perfect."
     

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