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  1. Frames
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    Waukegan, Il. 1970. Fist time out. 50 lap feature. 1/4 mile track. Won from last place. Wisconsin rules. O E M b Chuck Acheson.jpg #87 Waukegan.jpg ody and O E M frame rails.
     
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    Hudson i think
     
  4. BrandonB
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    The third picture makes you look cross-eyed.

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  5. Maverick Daddy
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    Hell if I take my glasses off they all look that way. ..
     
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  6. Sky Six
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    It's hard staying in the HAMB perimeter, there was some wild match bash and pioneer funny cars post '65! This Turbonique kart thingies had to be a literal blast, and the Chev hardtop is pretty wild, albeit tame for this thread....
     

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  8. Ray Andreg roadster show winner from a cut off coupe.
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  9. Maverick Daddy
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  11. jnaki
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    Hello,

    In the timeline of 1959, various dragstrips had classes for all kinds of race cars. The top numeration being the A/Gas dragster or A/Fuel dragster classes. But the lettering game went all the way down to the small 4 cylinder motor cars or smaller yet. My brother and I were amazed that the race car was so small. Perhaps, sitting next to a Crosley sedan felt at home with a small 61 c.i. two cylinder Crosley or whatever motor.

    This one dragster was different than all of the rest. “One of these guys is doing his own thing…” to paraphrase a famous Sesame Street song… Was it a rare engine? The small FED certainly was a rare sight among the long, sleek, powerful motors of the top FED racers of the time. The motor looked too small to be a 4 cylinder, so Crosley did make a two cylinder motor way back then.
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    Fellow drag racers of note at the same day event in 1959.

    Jnaki


    Fearless among the giants…
    Small FED Riverside 1959


    Note:
    Some well known racers of the "normal kind..." in 1959










     
  12. SS327
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    Crosley never made a 2 cylinder. They did do a v4 then the in-line 44 hp.
     
  13. Ned Ludd
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    Crosley used a proprietary engine before WWII, an air-cooled Waukesha flat-twin. So while they never manufactured twin-cylinder engines themselves, they did manufacture cars with twin-cylinder engines.
     
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  14. crosleykook
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    Crosley did a lot of engine variants, including a flat 8 and an experimental straight 6 (which led to a hypothetical 24 cylinder aircraft motor), but one thing they never did was a V4.
     

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  15. SS327
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    Sorry, I thought the early ones used a Wisconsin variant.
     
  16. Ned Ludd
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    I did see a Wisconsin V4 in a custom bike a few years ago. That seemed a natural.
     
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  17. Yes, and Bill Coburn had a pardner, Neil Leffler, on the coupe they called the "Iron Mistress". It wasn't sucessful, way too heavy. After they were done with it, Coburn pulled a mold off the body and made a few glass Messerschmidt bodies.
     
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  18. jnaki
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    Hello,

    This unusual Model A sedan needs a little more information. It was built and run by Ray Callejo from the SF Bay Area. It was in a lot of car shows and as the early Drag News ad/photo shows, competed in the Altered Sedan class in those early days.

    The odd aluminum covering below the body and doors may be to cover up the other SBC injected motor sitting closer to the driver sitting in the far reaches of the sedan. As the photo looks, an altered set up with 25% set back was standard and this one was a good build from Ray Callejo. It has been well documented in various articles and photo arrays.


    Jnaki
    From other posts from the past:

    Here are a couple of drawings and some actual facts found in my research of old Altered Coupes and Sedans. There were a few multiple engine Altereds and this was one of the most popular during our time at the drags and in car shows, but it was located in the S.F. Bay Area.

    The drawings and info were posted in the Friday Art Show back in August, 2020. We had never seen it in person, despite the fact that they were sponsored by Clay Smith Cams from Long Beach, CA near our old house.

    If anyone has a Bay Area color photo, I would be happy to change what I thought and a digital imaging company thought was the actual color from a B/W photo. In all of the stacks of old car magazines, there must be a color photo of the multiple engine sedan.
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    So, does anyone have a June 1961 Hot Rod Mag or October 1961 Car Craft Magazine for comparisons?

    FROM ANOTHER POST: Friday Art
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    Ray Callejo had/has a well rounded background in hot rods and drag racing. He was at the Fremont Dragstrip with his 1931 Model A Sedan and a 283 C.I. SBC that ran in the B/Altered class. This was the Altered Coupe and Sedan Class many years before they dropped the designation and included Altered Roadsters.
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    Ray Callejo Model A Fremont Drags

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    The research shows that the copyright for all show photos belongs to a person that has not made them public.

    The old designation of BA-7 is no longer correct and should have read A/A-7. (with 584 c.i.)
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    The Model A Sedan with the twin 292 SBC motors was featured in Car Craft and Hot Rod Magazines back in the early 1960s.It has been a long time.
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    If no one noticed, a change of front wheels and the Model A sedan could be mistaken for an early version of a competitive gas coupe for the once popular class of Gas Coupes and Sedans at all dragstrips across the USA.




     
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  21. Maverick Daddy
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    But did it work? FB_IMG_1699708202303.jpg
     
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  23. 34Phil
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    Who noticed these headers[​IMG] in the trad rod n custom thread? Owner must be a knitter.
     
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  24. fuzzface
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    The double grille 37 lincoln zephyr from the lee hartung estate. sold at auction for $11,213 back in 2011 and then resold again for $15,680. not sure where it is now. lost track of it and never knew where the other one ever ended up.
     
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    This was on BaT a few months ago...running and driving sold for something like 10k.
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  29. Stock Racer
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    I don't believe in busting someone's balls over their ride but wtf was this guy thinking Should Not Be a.jpg Should Not Be.jpg
     
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