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History Vintage "Cageless" Midget Picture Thread

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by KKx125, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. TommyA19
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    The photo of the lady on the Nazaruk car - that was not a Caruso car.
     
  2. moe#69
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    Hello, Well guys page “100” COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :);):eek::p:D
     

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  3. Lumpy95
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    I found A treasure box of old magazines USAC yearbooks going
    back to ??? havent got to the bottom.
    MOTOR LIFE.... APRIL 1961
     

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  4. Denny Zimmerman
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    post 1982 Bobby Courtright in Mataka Brothers car, and Nick Fonoro (don't know whose car) but I'm thinking Westboro MA. Denny Z
     
  5. Lumpy95
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    The 1971 USAC yearbook, Please excuse the cages.
     

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  6. Jim Nise
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    Sonny (Sanders) Madonia right behind Bobby in the mataka 3n1
     
  7. wynns #1
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    Just thought I would have some fun, OK guys , who was better and why? The Dutchman or Len Duncan.
     
  8. baldtireman
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    You do mean the unshielded exhaust pipes,don't you? heh heh!:p
     
  9. Ken_Schou
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    And on the right side of the picture .. the late Bill Mataka.
    Just over Bill's shoulder it apprears to be Ed "Dutch" Schaefer.

    A USAC sticker on the car, yet with Sonny & Dutch there it would have had to been in the east.
    The one tire showing tells us it was a dirt track .... but where? I bet "racerbillyc" knows.
     
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  10. RABs32
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    from new jersey

    Theres a building silouhette in the back ground kind of reminds me of the concrete factory at Nazereth.
     
  11. Ken_Schou
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    Both were superb chauffeurs and had outstanding careers.
    I knew and enjoyed the company of both.
    Others will add to this &/or have a different opinion, I’m sure.

     
    DUNCAN 8 ARDC Championships
    58 ARDC Feature Wins
    1 Indy 500 Start
    1 Formula One Start

    SCHAEFER 4 ARDC Championships
    1 SMRC Championship
    78 ARDC Feature Wins

    With vision in only one eye, Dutch could not pass the physical exam. Therefore (UNFAIRLY) wasn’t permitted to run Indy.

    Vision in one eye gives a person poor depth perception. Some how Dutch was able to more than compensate for this.

    To me, Dutch was more exciting to watch.

    He was the winner of the last race he drove in...1977 at Bloomsburg, PA.

    The idea is to win races .. With 78 ARDC feature wins (plus more with the SMRC) ….
    CARL EDWARD “DUTCH” SCHAEFER (aka the Dutchman) gets my vote!!!
     

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  12. Ken_Schou
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    From Ron Hutchinson (HUTCHO) in Austrailia

    How to explain handling

    Understeer / Push: .. You hit the wall with the front of the car.
    Oversteer / Loose: .. You hit the wall with the back of the car.
    Horsepower: .. How fast you hit the wall.
    Torque: .. How far you take the wall with you.
     
  13. arundel30
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    Still looking for this car. The picture of the white one is the last version I know off. Rumor has it that it changed owners a couple times since and is now in Canada. Thanks in advance for any more leads.
    Dan

    We went to Loudon to the vintage race car meet 5-18-11 with the pictures and met a lot of great folks. Many new the driver Art Rousseau and a couple new of the builder Alton "Pop" Jones (my grandfather). Still looking for leads to the car's location.
    Thanks, Dan
     

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  14. TommyA19
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    From above:
    "DUNCAN 8 ARDC Championships
    58 ARDC Feature Wins

    1 Indy 500 Start
    1 Formula One Start"

    I believe the Formula One start was the Indy race when they were included in the world championship for a few years.
     
  15. Ken_Schou
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  16. BIG JOHN 37
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    Joe, and Ken, Have pondered "the question" as posed for a day, or two now, and here's my best response. What a great era of the ARDC to have witnessed as a kid, the 50's and 60's, when you, or I think about it, the Great Ones, Dutch, Len Duncan, Johnny Coy, Ernie McCoy, Johnny Mann, Joe Csiki, etc. Of course, my stock answer will always be that "Jiggs" was the best!!! But, if you had to press me for a non Family member, it would be ..............Dutch! Big John
     
  17. Lumpy95
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    Dick Atkins had a son what ever happened to him?
    LittleFauss , you seem to be the Atkins historian.
     

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  18. LittleFauss
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    .....'Sure. Dick Atkins' son, Ron, raced local sprint cars at Baylands Raceway in Fremont (CA) back in 1983/84 but only for a brief time. 'Not sure anyone in racing has heard from him since? When Dick lost his life at Ascot Park in Nov. 1966, his wife was pregnant with their daughter. And when Atkins was inducted into the BCRA Hall Of Fame in 1997, his daughter, Michelle showed up to receive the plaque at the ceremonies at Placerville (CA).
     

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  19. Lumpy95
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    Oh &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;, I was wondering if he got any of that raw talent.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    Those are both great pictures I don't have. My mom only saved<o:p></o:p>
    the Best pictures and put them in 6 albums disposed of the rest after<o:p></o:p>
    seeing all of &#8220;Daveww1&#8221; pit pictures I wish I would have carried a <o:p></o:p>
    camera all the time&#8230;&#8230;.. but you know hind site is 20/20&#8230;.. Lumpy R.<o:p></o:p>
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  20. Lumpy95
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    That&#8217;s another one I never saw.
    From 1977-1986 I competed in Pacific International Trials and owned a house in Milpitas. I was lying in bed and could hear racecars. I swore they must have been coming from Fremont. Got on my Horse and went out there. Boy if it&#8217;s in your blood that&#8217;s all that Matters. I saw Baylands once and I was hooked on those high banks HAD TO GET ON THAT TRACK regardless of how &#8220;beg borrow steal&#8221;. Sold all my bikes and went for it .
    I guess I missed Ron by 2 years. Had lots of fun to bad you can&#8217;t live 2 lives and run it all. ....lumpy
     
  21. LittleFauss
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    .....'In this ARDC race at Flemington in 1972, I'm glad Len wasn't "cageless!"
     

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  22. moe#69
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    Hello, Not only went for A ride, Then someone steels his wallet. Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
     
  23. TommyA19
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    Believe it or not, I didn't get to see to many ARDC shows once my mom and dad split up in the late 40's. But the talent in those late 40's was as good or even better than what was coming up into the 50's and 60's - with some of them also having run in those 40's.
     
  24. Denny Zimmerman
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    Anyone know if he ever got his wallet back? Denny Z
     
  25. Jim Nise
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    When Al Keller was killed at Phoenix in 1961, somebody stole the watch he was given for winning the pole that day.

    Some people are just turds!
     
  26. Lumpy95
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    Selections from 1970 BCRA yearbook
     

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  28. LittleFauss
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    .....'Wow! Very nice, but unless I missed it, you forgot one of my favorite car owners and his cars.................
     

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  29. bobjeffreson
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    Great to see Don Meacham mentioned in the BCRA Yearbook. Don was a class act when he came to Australia and raced.
    In the Miran Caves Offy Sydney 1968....

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    Don back in Australia for a vintage midget show in 2004.

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  30. Jim Nise
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    To the ARDC list you can add, Bert Brooks, Bill Randall, Tony Bonadias, Bobby Marshman, Al Herman, Gig Stevens, Al Keller,.....
     

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