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History Vintage "Cageless" Midget Picture Thread

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by KKx125, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. Jim Nise
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    loudbang, no I have not was thinking the same thing
     
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  2. hi MIKE this info is available on the only cragar junior carI CAN FIND in the ROY RICHTER BOOK
    GEORGE WIGHT is the only one who installed a cragar junior head on a waukesha engine ,
    being he owned GRAGAR in 1936 he was testing the new industrial waukesha engine , REFERRED TO AS THE FERGUSON TRACTOR ENGINE , ALSO IN KANSASRACINGHISTORY.COM , GEORGE WRIGHTS WAUKESHA CRAGAR ENGINE DRIVEN BY JIMMY WILBURN.
    in the ROY RICHTER BOOK refers to the bell auto shop car number 14 as the cragar junior car
    clearly marked in several pictures in the book , in the shop and at race tracks
    SWEDE LINDSKOG IS ALSO pictured in the number 14 BELL AUTO CRAGAR JUNIOR CAR
    IN THE USA AND IN NEW ZEALAND 1936/1937 . THE CAR IS CLEARLY MARKED
    CRAGAR JUNIOR . THE VALVE COVER IS CLEARLY CRAGAR JUNIOR
    I HAVE NOT SEEN A 2ND COVER IN ANY PHOTOS
    LET ME NO IF YOU HAVE INFO
    THANX JT
     
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  4. BELL AUTO CRAGAR JUNIOR SWEDE LINDSKOG
    #14
     

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  5. BELL AUTO SHOP CAR , CRAGAR JUNIOR WAUKESHA
    DRIVER SWEDE LINDSKOG
    OWNER GEORGE WIGHT
     

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  6. SEE PICTURES POSTED OF CRAGAR JUNIOR BELL AUTO MIDGET
    this car has rare bell auto parts , including , GORDON SCHROEDER/BELL AUTO DRUM BRAKES
    WINFIELD SR RACING CARB , parts that GEORGE WIGHT WOULD HAVE AT THE SHOP
    let me no if there is a 2nd cragar junior waukesha pre war race car out there
     
  7. 28dreyer
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    from Minnesota

    Ok
    WHOAA...the Ford flat head 4 cylinder tractor engine was erroneously called a Ferguson when used with the Ford 9N, 2N and 8N tractors with the 3 point hitch developed by Harry, Ferguson in England and licensed to Ford. It was basically half of Ford’s V8’s. Ferguson, incidentally, may be better recognized for his four wheel drive system used in the Indy 500.

    The small Waukesha flat head 4 cylinder industrial engine was unto itself.

    Somewhere along the line I thought I saw a DOHC CRAGAR JR, I think at Jim Brierly’s back in the ‘90’s. Perhaps it was sold to the Speedway Museum my memory is saying. I may be mixed up on this but not the Ford/Waukesha statement.

    Maybe Dean Lowe can chirp in on this.
     
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  8. YES 28 DREYER
    the FERGUSON TRACTOR AND HENRY FORD DID NOT TEAM UP UNTIL 1939
    THE CRAGAR JUNIOR CAR WAS BUILT IN 1936 , THE ENGINE WAS called GEORGES tractor motor
    as QUOTED IN the ROY RICHTER BOOK , MISTAKENLY CALLED A FERGUSON MOTOR .OR FORD .TRACTOR MOTOR , DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY PICTURES OF A PREWAR CRAGAR JUNIOR
    WAKESHUA HIGH OUTPUT MOTOR ? THE ONLY ONE I CAN FIND IS IN THE BELL AUTO SHOP CAR , THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE .
    GEORGE BOUGHT OUT THE BANKRUPT CRAGAR CORP IN LATE 1932 AND IMPROVED THE HEAD , THE DOC CRAGAR WAS NOT PRODUCTION READY AT THAT TIME , I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE ,
    THE WAUKESHA HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS IDENTIFIED MY MOTOR AS A 1935
    FC 133 CU HIGH OUTPUT MOTOR , GEORGE FITTED THE SINGLE OVERHEAD CRAGAR JUNIOR HEAD TO THE NEW MOTOR , SEE SWEDE LINDSKOG, JIMMY WILBURN INFO IN PRIOR POST , UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS NOT COMPETITIVE WITH THE OFFYS , THE CAR HAS SEVERAL RARE BELL AUTO UPGRADES
    THAT GEORGE WOULD HAVE AT HIS SHOP , I BELIEVE ROY RICHTER REBODIED THE CAR PRE WAR , HELP INFO OR PICTURES
    THANX
     
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  9. BELL AUTO 1936 SHOP CAR
    CRAGAR JUNIOR WAUKESHA F3 133 CU HIGH OUTPUT MOTOR
     

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  10. 1-SHOT
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    Nice, very interesting .
     
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  11. MORE INFO ON MY BELL AUTO CRAGAR JUNIOR SHOP CAR
    FROM KANSASRACINGHISTORY.COM
    GEORGE WRIGHT IS A MISPRINT
    GEORGE WIGHT IS THE BELL AUTO PARTS FOUNDER
    JIMMY WILBURN IS A DRIVER OF THE CRAGAR JUNIOR WAUKESHA MIDGET
    ALSO PICTURED IN ROY RICHTERS BOOK
    DOES ANYONE HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF
    A SECOND MIDGET WITH A CRAGAR JUNIOR HEAD 1935 FC WAUKESHA INDUSTRIAL
    RACE ENGINE ?
     

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  12. SWEDE LINDSKOG 14 CRAGAR JR 007 (2).JPG
     
  13. GEORGE WIGHTS BELL AUTO HOUSE CRAGAR JUNIOR WAUKESHA CAR
    SWEDE LINDSKOG DRIVER DSCN9179.JPG DSCN9206.JPG DSCN9206.JPG
     
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  14. Interesting that I found this thread tonight after just starting to do some number reparation on a midget race car purchased by a friend of mine. The car was originally owned by a friend and client of mine whose father and possibly his uncle raced the car many years ago. Sadly he was brutally murdered awhile back (a long story).
    The car sat in the window of his shop/garage for many years and although I would see it when I went over to do paint work on one of his many motorcycle restorations I never really looked at it that closely.
    The new owner is in the process of cleaning the car up a bit to show and in the process damaged some of the lettering on the car. Someone had touched up one of the numbers on it in the past and it doesn't match the rest of the others. He wants me to make them all the same color and then "age" the letters to match the finish on the rest of the car.
    I knew that it had a V8-60 engine in it but always thought it had Eddie Meyer heads and manifold on it(on reflection I think it did at one time) but when I saw it today it had a Weiand intake with two Stromberg model 81 carbs and a set of heads I have never heard of before. They are aluminum;unfinned and marked with the name,"YOUNG" (pictures supplied)
    I checked with a friend of mine who is very knowledgeable on early flathead parts and he has never heard of them either! So my question is:
    Does anyone on the HAMB know the story on YOUNG cylinder heads? Did they make them just for V8-60's or were they available for full size flatheads as well? GlennMeyer's1.JPG GlennMeyer's2.JPG GlennMeyer's3.JPG GlennMeyer's4.JPG GlennMeyer's5.JPG GlennMeyer's6.JPG
     
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