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Technical VALSPAR TRACTOR PAINT

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by rdynes01, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. rdynes01
    Joined: Nov 22, 2010
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    I'm getting ready to paint my latest project and I'm going to use Valspar Tractor paint thru my HF purple gun. The Valspar TDS isn't clear on spray application so what will be a good reducer for it and what ratio to thin and I will be using their hardener also so how much of that should I add? Any tips or secrets from guys that have used this paint will be appreciated........Bob
     
  2. jeffs64cat
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    I use tractor supply paint when paints my scale helicopters. I thin down with minerals spirits. I just mix so when my test spray is good. But if I'd have to say it's about 1/4 spirits to 3/4 paint. I spray thin coats at first to med at the end. I spray 6 coat. Hope this helps., I'm not a professional just a hobbyist.


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  3. Valspar Implement paint is a enamel so regular mineral sprites/paint thinner will be what you use for reducing the paint.

    Enamels are slow drying so you might want to add some Japan Dryer to speed up the drying process,if you do use it sparingly.

    As for spraying it I don't know the viscosity of the product but a rule of thumb is usually 1 to 4. HRP
     
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  4. sunbeam
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    My experience Alkyd enamel paints tend to fade quickly
     
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  5. a boner
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    Is it fake patina if you choose to use paint that "fades" quickly?
     
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  6. indyjps
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    6 parts valspar, 2 parts acetone, 1/4 part valspar enamel hardener. Shot this a lot of times.

    Spray your tack coat and see how its laying down, adjust if necessary. Take the time to disassemble and clean the harbor freight gun, theres a lot of assembly oil and sealer putty in them. Take the time to set up the spray pattern and get used to the gun.

    You can use automotive enamel reducer in this paint for more control of drying time. Test a small batch makes sure it mixes evenly.

    Mineral spirits will work but take a long time to cure.
     
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  7. john worden
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    Read the Valspar Technical Data Sheet.
    With all paint products.... read read read
     
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  8. Chiss
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    Just asking because I don't no, And read these Paint Post for Idea's own an upcoming Project I am going to attempt myself. Will the Mineral Spirits Lift the Primer or is it critical to use Epoxy or Enamel Primer?
     
  9. rdynes01
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    Mineral spirits in a paint coating such as enamel won't lift the vast majority of primers available today.
     
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  10. TVC
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    Can you use the acrylic enamel wet look/gloss hardener with Valspar/Rustoleum/Tractor enamel?
     
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  11. indyjps
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    I have used napa enamel reducer and hardener, hawthorne reducer and hardener, acetone and valspar hardener, acetone by itself, mineral spitits by itself in valspar.

    Please test a small batch yourself for conpatibility before mixing your whole gallon.

    Valspar and rustoleum are very forgiving, its about as cheap as enamel can get, you can paint over dirt and it will stick. The long term dutability is where most concerns come in. Will it fade -yes. The hardener helps. But it doesnt have the UV additives that auto based paint has.

    I have used it a lot on equipment. It covers and protects, this stuff was never waxed so its a difficult comparison to a garage kept or waxed vehicle.

    Really for not much more theres a lot of automotive enamels avaialable that will outperform valspar. Ive shot both Paint for car .com, tcpglobal restoration shop,
    Much better results for not much more cash.

    I know thats not what everyone asked though.
     
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  12. BJR
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    I just cannot see using tractor paint on a car that you have put so much work into. Cheap paint still requires a lot of prep and good primer, so why not use automotive paint and get something that lasts? But then I have been painting cars for 50 years so I look at things like this differently.
     
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  13. Kan Kustom
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    Usually where you buy Valspar tractor enamel you can get Valspar acrylic enamel. It is a little more expensive but still very reasonable and ten times as good a paint. Acrylic enamel has always been my favorite to work with in any brand.
     
  14. mohead1
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    Yes, u can get acrylic enamel paint from Valspar. Valspar is good paint. The TCP Global is a great place to get paint and supplies

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  15. southcross2631
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    Used to paint my dirt track cars with that paint. Allis Chalmers orange. It started to fade by the end of one season of setting in the Ga. sun. Easy to work with . Funny story, we were getting a car ready to run an endure in Jax, Fl. Running late so we taped up the car with one of our crew members in the seat with a paint mask on . Painted the car, untaped it and loaded it on the trailer and air dried it in the hour ride to the track. Lettered it while waiting in line to get in. Everybody kept saying ,I smell fresh paint. No kidding.
     
  16. MIKE STEWART
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    I have used Velspar / Rest. tractor paint for the inside of the body - like floor pans, inside truck and firewall and quarter panels - that are not exposed to sun light. I like the semi-gloss black. Has worked well for me - but I use true auto paint for exterior.
     
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  17. porknbeaner
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    LOL I really can't tell if this one is fading or not. But it still shines like a new dime and is probably painted 10 years now. :D

    raven.jpg

    This is shot with what was at the time 38 dollar Valspar tractor paint. Its the light Ford Gray. I guess if it ever fades it'll be white. :D
     
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  18. raven
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    It's still holding up good.
    r
     
  19. flatheadpete
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    That's what I need for my Ford 9n...
     
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  20. mohead1
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    Nice!!

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  21. Truckdoctor Andy
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    When I paint tractors, I use naphtha as a reducer. I've used Magic brand paint with poor results, but now, I use Van Sickle brand and it looks great after 3 years, but I use their Hardner and they said to thin with naphtha


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  22. a boner
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    Too bad if it ever really fades bad.....you will have to scuff it and spend another $38.00 for more paint for a respray. Better start to save up for some more Valspar! Or better yet, just tell everyone it an old survivor paint job from when the car was built!
     
  23. sunbeam
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    0717071330.jpg [​IMG] This is 3 year old velspar IHC red that set in the weather top part was under a lid the bottom edge is what the rest of the paint looks like.
     
  24. porknbeaner
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    I figure its already ghost grey if it fades it'll be Casper invisible. :D


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  25. mohead1
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    All reds fade badly....dont know why...

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  26. porknbeaner
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    They always have, I think some of the new color coat clear coat paints are not as bad.
     
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  27. rdynes01
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    The Valspar hardener can says 8 oz. per gallon of their paint which means 2oz. per qt. Does that sound like a lot of hardener to add to the paint? Bob
     
  28. dana barlow
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    Yes,the new paint mixs are better at lasting as for red, was always hard to keep up with. But as much as I liked red,I used gloss black Rusttolem and just buffed it back up,tell It'd get to the point were ,repaint was needed on my 1928 roadster. My dayly driver is a red w/gold paril flake I would of loved back in the early 60's,but then cost would of been passed having, red wagon came with is now 12 years old,still looks super{but both are garage kept most days]2005 dodge magnum. PlyConChurch.jpg magnumRear.jpg
     
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  29. When "Candy Apple" first showed up in the 60's, a kid in our neighborhood shot his Ford with it.
    It was awesome! A year later it was just another red Ford. Couldn't believe how fast it went away.
     

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