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V-4 FORD engines

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by RATCAMINO, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. RATCAMINO
    Joined: Oct 31, 2005
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    I gotta chance to purchase an old v-4 ford engine just lookin for some info, parts availability, cubic inches , approximate value , etc.
    Any help would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    Early '60's Taunus?? I think sold here as industrial engine?
     
  3. unkamort
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    Same mill that was in the early Saabs? They were fairly successful in European rally racing back in the day. Might be a good point to start your research.
     
  4. altraditional
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    It was quite common in european fords during 60s and 70s. But they weren't having too much displacement or power.
     
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  5. Pete Peterson
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    I have owned a couple of Sasb Sonetts. The V-4 was made in Germany and installed in Saab Cars. I think 2 sizes 1900cc and 2100cc. Ran alright nothing available to hop up except rally eqp. Just a pushrod engine. check with (Jack Ashcraft in Medford, Oregon) if you are serious. I sold my 68 and it went back to the (old country) Pete
     
  6. Used in British Fords too, with 1700 and 2000cc versions. Can´t recall hearing anything good about these motors.
     
  7. LIMEY
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    The Brit V4 was a smaller version of the Essex V6...... not very reliable mechanically but was good for torque not rpm, always had cooling & head gasket issues.
    However the German Cologne V4 also a smaller version of a V6 was was more refined, revved much easier & would last good into high mileage.

    I worked on both when they were poular here.

    Kev.
     
  8. Chevydeuce
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    The german V4 had in the biggest version i think 1700ccm?!!
    About 75hp or so.
    They had probs with the cam gears and the valveseats.
    Other than that I don´t know much about those.
     
  9. Paul Y
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    No power. Vibration. Unreliable.

    The only thing going for it is it is compact.

    If you want a 4cylinder ford get a Pinto or a Cosworth motor.

    I hated working on the V4's when I was a mechanic.

    P.
     
  10. Barn-core
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    Something like this?
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    I saw this at G.G. Pleasanton earlier this year. The guy said it was an industrial motor. He also said it fit a Chevy pattern bell housing. I thought it was pretty cool.
     
  11. RHOPPER
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    Early Saab, and some brands of bobcat/skidsteer used the industrial version of that motor.
     
  12. 97
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    If ya haven't got a boat you probably don't need the anchor!!

    It's a lemon.
    They are not even half a V8...they are two thirds of a gutless Ford Grenada/Essex V6. ....If it is a German Taunus/Cologne version it might be a little better but will be 1700cc ( 103 cubic inches) at most .
    They had reliability issues , even near new, came to NZ in Ford Transit Vans, most got replaced with V6s which wasn't much better . Parts are hard to find now, and I somehow doubt there are any real aftermarket performance parts .....
    Heaps of peoblem areas but it was the Oil pump drive, timing gears, balance , blocks, and cylinder heads mainly gave problems , apart from the overheating and gutless performance and dodgey machining from the factory.
    A good rundown can be found here
    http://www.baconsdozen.co.uk/motorhome/essexengine.htm
     
  13. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    Yep...

    I had a Ford Transit Van with one.

    Shook the exhaust pipes off the engine.

    ( fortunately the I-beam was under the engine, so the pipes weren't draging while I drove it home )

    Drove a German V6 for a little while too, didn't like it either.

    I wouldn't want either one again, unless it was free.
    ( and that's only because the guy who picks up my Junk Steel is a very good friend of mine...)


    Ford made lots of engines that were better...
     
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  14. metalshapes
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    Saab probably used it because they had an Engine Bay that would fit a 3cyl inline 2-stroke engine.

    When they finally got rid of it, they replaced it with a Triumph Engine.
    ( so I guess the bar wasn't set that high...:D )
     
  15. "Doc" Parsons
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    I don't have one but I do have an all aluminum v/4 Chevy

    "Doc" Parsons
     
  16. solid
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    the owner of the company my dad worked had a saab w/ one in it. neat to look at, but my dad was always doing something to that engine.
     
  17. draggin breath
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    The early Ranger v-6 was a big brother of this. Had solid lifters and would wind tight.
     

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