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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Groovy, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    DSC02897.JPG DSC02898.JPG DSC02899.JPG DSC02900.JPG DSC02897.JPG DSC02898.JPG DSC02899.JPG DSC02900.JPG Floor and tunnel are done. Just finish off with the Tig and on to body filler to smooth all joints.
     
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  2. loudbang
    Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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    Shift boot conversion worked out great. :)
     
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  3. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    You got that right. Those trucks were NEVER considered for traditional hotrods
     
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  4. Groovy
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    Groovy

    DSC02904.JPG DSC02905.JPG DSC02906.JPG DSC02907.JPG DSC02904.JPG DSC02905.JPG DSC02906.JPG DSC02907.JPG Floors are done with Tig work. All items sandblasted. All that is left is install hinge and door for Master Cylinder access then fill all weld joints with body filler.
     
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  5. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    IMG_1070.JPG IMG_1071.JPG IMG_1076.JPG IMG_1078.JPG IMG_1074.JPG IMG_1070.JPG IMG_1071.JPG IMG_1076.JPG IMG_1078.JPG IMG_1074.JPG Brake master cylinder access door is done.
     
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  6. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    IMG_1106.JPG IMG_1107.JPG IMG_1111.JPG IMG_1132.JPG IMG_1121.JPG IMG_1123.JPG IMG_1125.JPG IMG_1126.JPG IMG_1128.JPG IMG_1129.JPG IMG_1106.JPG IMG_1107.JPG IMG_1111.JPG IMG_1132.JPG IMG_1121.JPG IMG_1123.JPG IMG_1125.JPG IMG_1126.JPG IMG_1128.JPG IMG_1129.JPG Seat base is completed and ready for filler. Zips water pump housing has been debured and sand blasted for a clean look.
     
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  7. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1150.JPG IMG_1152.JPG IMG_1158.JPG 6f85e1b20843ff9c148678e3c82eeb3a.jpg IMG_1150.JPG IMG_1152.JPG IMG_1158.JPG 6f85e1b20843ff9c148678e3c82eeb3a.jpg Doing something different with the exhaust... going to copy Foose's idea for his P-32 Roadster.
     
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  8. Shamus
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    Shamus
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    Whose flathead?
     
  9. mgtstumpy
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    mgtstumpy
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    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1272.JPG IMG_1282.JPG IMG_1283.JPG IMG_1275.JPG IMG_1280.JPG IMG_1285.JPG IMG_1286.JPG IMG_1272.JPG IMG_1282.JPG IMG_1283.JPG IMG_1275.JPG IMG_1280.JPG IMG_1285.JPG IMG_1286.JPG I notched the grill to make room for the frame rails because of the pinched front end. Also notched the firewall to make room for the dist cap and wires.
     
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  11. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1378.JPG IMG_1379.JPG IMG_1376.JPG IMG_1380.JPG IMG_1373.JPG IMG_1378.JPG IMG_1379.JPG IMG_1376.JPG IMG_1380.JPG IMG_1373.JPG Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...Saw a custom hood ornament and thought I would make one for my Rod.
    To Be Continued...
     
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  12. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1393.JPG IMG_1394.JPG IMG_1385.JPG IMG_1386.JPG IMG_1396.JPG IMG_1393.JPG IMG_1394.JPG IMG_1385.JPG IMG_1386.JPG IMG_1396.JPG The hood ornament is slowly being carved.
    Made a panel that will hold the switches...
     
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  13. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1437.JPG IMG_1435.JPG IMG_1432.JPG www.speednymph.com.jpg IMG_1437.JPG IMG_1435.JPG IMG_1432.JPG www.speednymph.com.jpg My Rolling Bones copy hood ornament is near completion. Need a coat of primer to finalize details...
     
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  14. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1457.JPG IMG_1458.JPG IMG_1459.JPG IMG_1451.JPG IMG_1452.JPG IMG_1454.JPG IMG_1456.JPG IMG_1449.JPG IMG_1450.JPG IMG_1453.JPG IMG_1457.JPG IMG_1458.JPG IMG_1459.JPG IMG_1451.JPG IMG_1452.JPG IMG_1454.JPG IMG_1456.JPG IMG_1449.JPG IMG_1450.JPG IMG_1453.JPG Started filling the firewall...
     
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  15. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1484.JPG IMG_1479.JPG IMG_1478.JPG IMG_1481.JPG IMG_1482.JPG IMG_1480.JPG IMG_1483.JPG IMG_1484.JPG IMG_1479.JPG IMG_1478.JPG IMG_1481.JPG IMG_1482.JPG IMG_1480.JPG IMG_1483.JPG Most of the filling is completed...
     
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  16. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1524.JPG IMG_1523.JPG IMG_1526.JPG IMG_1548.JPG IMG_1549.JPG IMG_1550.JPG IMG_1551.JPG IMG_1524.JPG IMG_1523.JPG IMG_1526.JPG IMG_1548.JPG IMG_1549.JPG IMG_1550.JPG IMG_1551.JPG Black epoxy primer is applied to all bare metal surfaces. Next step high solids primer.
    Got the RollingBones rad cap ornament painted & installed...
     
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  17. Groovy
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    Groovy

    IMG_1563.JPG IMG_1564.JPG IMG_1565.JPG IMG_1570.JPG IMG_1563.JPG IMG_1564.JPG IMG_1565.JPG IMG_1570.JPG Dash holes cut for gauges...
     
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  18. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    IMG_1655.JPG IMG_1625.JPG IMG_1624.JPG IMG_1627.JPG IMG_1626.JPG IMG_1622.JPG IMG_1621.JPG IMG_1620.JPG IMG_1625.JPG IMG_1624.JPG IMG_1627.JPG IMG_1626.JPG IMG_1622.JPG IMG_1621.JPG IMG_1620.JPG Welded up a signal stock for the turn signal toggle.
     
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  19. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    Steering rod is cut to length. Fuel tank mounting is finished. Header pipe is tacked together in preparation for the side exit exhaust... IMG_1653.JPG IMG_1654.JPG IMG_1659.JPG IMG_1661.JPG IMG_1657.JPG IMG_1658.JPG IMG_1652.JPG
     
  20. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    IMG_1768.JPG Got some high solids primer on... IMG_1765.JPG IMG_1763.JPG IMG_1766.JPG IMG_1767.JPG
     
  21. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    IMG_1788.JPG IMG_1791.JPG IMG_1792.JPG Headers are slowly coming together. Hood & sides also showed up...
     
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  22. When I first got my hot rod on the road I was running a SBC, T5 w/.63 OD, 3.50 gear and 31 inch tires. I could only use the OD on the highway and even then at 65 mph I had to downshift to pass anyone. Why is this relevant?

    The Tremec's OD ratio of .63 will not work well with your 3.23 final drive ratio. You probably won't be able to use the overdrive because your motor will be taching maybe 1,300-1,500 at highway speeds. Rear tire height can fix the issue, but I doubt you'll be running 25 or 26 inch tall rear tires. You may want to run the numbers on a 4.11 or 4.30 rear gear. With a lower gear the car will have a lot more grunt through ALL the gears. At what RPM did your 350 make 290 horsepower? Engines perform the best (both economy and performance) when they're operating in their designed power band.

    Here's the formula to figure out the right combo:
    MPH x Rear Gear Ratio x 336 / Tire Height x Overdrive = Cruise RPM

    BTW, your fabrication is exceptionally clean – very nice work.
     
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  23. Dave's right about the gearing...(ask me how I know):D
     
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  24. ATTN Mr GROOVY...…...don't break your arm,pattin yourself on your back
     
  25. alfin32
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    alfin32
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  26. Groovy
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    Groovy

    Got no idea what you mean...
     
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  27. alfin32
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    alfin32
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    Sorry, wasn't meant for you. I was responding to the post about patting yourself on the back.
    I have no idea what he's talking about, as you're doing an outstanding job, and I look forward to watching the progress and your skill level. Carry on, brother, there's a lot of us out here rooting for you.
     
  28. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

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  29. RockyMtnWay
    Joined: Jan 6, 2015
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    RockyMtnWay
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    Great build. Enjoying the read.
    Hope you don’t mind my 2 cents but maybe my experience can help.
    I did a tko600 behind a zz383 in a 32 five window. Used a 3.50 rear gear set and rear tires were 700r18 tires. It had enough torque that rpm at 60/65 mph in fifth (o/d) was ok (just ok).
    In the roadster, I used the same trans, same rear gear set and 750r16 tires (same dia as the 700r18s) behind a crate 350 with 290 hp and it sucked. Both off the lights and lugging in o/d on the highway. 1400 rpm at 60 mph wasn’t going to work with the lil 350. Ended up yanking the chunk and changing out the gears to a 3.89 set. And it’s way, way better. The extra rpm gets into the cams power band (for lack of a better term) and now o/d on the highway doesn’t lug and off the lights it’s a little more fun too.
    The only other thing that you’re doing that I did, and then I changed, is the shifter location. I started by simply flipping the shifter in the rear location but ended up wanting a little more clearance from the bench seats in both the 5W and the roadster. Went to mid shift location and it works way better for me.
    Again, these are just my experiences, and just food for thought.
    Cheers.
     
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  30. Groovy
    Joined: Aug 9, 2015
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    Groovy

    With all the feedback about gear ratio selection I am a little worried...The trans / gear shop I bought my Tremec and center section said this combination would work. I told him I would like to use 3.23 for highway trips. I figured with the light weight of the vehicle the combo would be suited. What to do?
     
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