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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by merles_garage, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. maddkutter
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    I played around with the antique button on my phone! My T sits on a Boling Brothers frame, I made all the suspension brackets it should sit about 5 inches off the ground with the drivetrain.
     

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  2. exStreamliner
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    Traditional depending on the era... I like them all but settled on an older style... hopefully it will get finished this year

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  3. falcongeorge
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    I see all these guys saying that if it doesnt have a bed, its not a t-bucket. In my books, the difference between a t-bucket and a modified has nothing to do with whether it has a turtle deck, bed, or beer-keg. The difference between a t-bucket and a modfiied is a modified has a narrowed body. Guess I'm just behind the times...
     
  4. saw a guy at a local car show with a real steel T bucket...all four tires the same size and bias ply too....he was running a Studebaker flathead six....all built in his driveway using scrounged parts...kinda neat looking rod.
     
  5. need louvers ?
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    I'm partially with ya on that George, but I think it is more a matter of build style and detail. exstreamliner's car above is cool as all get out and I love it, but then I am also a complete freak for modifieds... But take his car and channel it the depth of the frame rails, leave that beautiful hood off of it, Put some 15" steel wheels or early mags on, and do a regular "T" grill shell and it's a "T" bucket. See? Details!
     
  6. falcongeorge
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    I dont see a t-bucket when I look at exstreamliners car at all. I would describe it as a track t or modified. And yes, it makes me slobber and drool and foam at the mouth. But T-bucket? No sir. I was referring to some of the other cars on here with no box/bed.

    Oh, and I agree with you on the Turnberg car as well.
     
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  7. youngster
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    I enjoy all the styles, Tbucket, modified, trackt and gow jobs. If the theme of the car is carried out from start to finish, it's cool with me. What erks me is a car wjth a model A front axle and a jag out back or a trackT with bike wires on the front. As louves says "details".

    Ron
     
  8. Blue One
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    No way. That is not a T bucket in any way shape or form. No matter what you did to it. It is just way cooler than a T bucket will ever be.

    Steel bodied roadsters built in this fashion are just not T buckets.
     
  9. need louvers ?
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    I'm not saying that Extreamliners car is a "T" bucket in any way shape or form, it's most definitely a modified. I'm just saying that the same parts slightly rearranged and mixed with slighty different wheels and tires and it most certainly would be a "T" bucket! And sorry, when it comes to buckets I just refuse to see a difference in importance between 'glass and steel.
     
  10. exStreamliner
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    With a 95" wheelbase and a full width body... I don't know what I can call it but "mine"

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  11. need louvers ?
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    Naw, she's a Modified, man, and a beautiful one at that!!! I can't wait to see this car finished.
     
  12. steel rebel
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    Not sure what you call it either except A BITCHIN RIDE. I might put it in the same class as Ed Iskenderians "T". Not sure where you pigeonhole it or this one though.
     
  13. maddkutter
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    Its funny cause I call mine a T bucket modified!
     

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  14. youngster
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    "I don't know what I can call it but "mine" "

    That works!!

    Ron

    PS ... In my book it's a modified too.
     
  15. Old Roadster
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    Hell I'd like to call it mine! Damn nice........
     
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  16. falcongeorge
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    Track T is what I would call it. And I am with NeedLouvers, I LOVE a good sixties style T-bucket, glass or not.
     
  17. maddkutter
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    Oh how I agree,....MINE ALL MINE!
     

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  18. need louvers ?
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    Your is looking way cool maddkutter! But do you have any photos that don't look like they were shot through a gause '70s starlet porn filter? I'd love to really see it!
     
  19. Blue One
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    Well, you are entitled to be wrong :) And in this case you are. Glass bodies are what T buckets are all about.

    Steel bodies are where it's at as far as traditional Ts go.
     
  20. need louvers ?
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    Hey Blue One, I don't want to go into a bickering session, and I did see your smilies, but I think you need to re read what I did say. I never called extreemliners car a "T" bucket, and I never will. It's a little wide to be a true modified, but that is what is most closely built to represent. As a matter of fact, he has been in contact with me regarding it's history because it was a local Phoenix car at one time with some race history. I'm still not sure hoe the car was set up back in the day whether it was a track roadster, drag roadster, or modified. My point though was that by making a few cahnges in the cars construction it would be on topic for the this "T" bucket thread. And yes a steel bodied car done in the style of a "T" bucket will always be a "T" bucket, but glass '23 bodies have been around since both Speedway and Almquist hit the market in mid '59, so I consider them just as relavent.
     
  21. Blue One
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    Well, you're right, no need to bicker, but we can disagree.

    Steel bodied cars will never be T buckets in my eyes. The fiberglass "Fad T buckets" will always be what I think of when I think T bucket.

    I never liked them and still don't. I always thought they looked too much like a caricature of a real hot rod for my tastes.

    The old steel bodied cars are hot rods in my eyes.
     
  22. Blind Elwood
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    The first T Buckets were steel.

    Elwood
     
  23. steel rebel
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    And to further the confusion this is what Gray Baskerville wrote about my roadster in February '97 R&C. "Clear Lake California's Gary Defer and his '15 T-bucket bring back memories of Grabowski, or Ivo's like bodied lakes modifieds." Now what makes their cars "lakes modifieds" and mine a "T bucket.

    I really don't remembering hearing T bucket until after fiberglass bodies started popping up.
     

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  24. Royalshifter
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    Isn't a bucket for water?
     
  25. steel rebel
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    Well as we all know "opinions are like ass holes, everybody has one" and here is this ass holes opinion. Henry steel T bodys are still out there. I found one in '79. Von Franko found one about the same time and then another after the turn of the century. Weez just found two. Hell a girl on the hamb is building a steel one. If you want one, If it means enough to you, you will find one. I've been in this since the late '50s and have seen many fiberglass style T bodies at swaps but had no interest in them. I think if you take the shortcut to buy a fiberglass body you loose the right to call your creation a "T". You can call it a T style rod, fiberglass replica T or a T style bucket if you like but it is not a "T". If on the other-hand you go to the effort to find and repair an original body you earn the right to call it a "T", weather you call it stock, track mod., lakes mod. or street strip modified as Graboski and Ivo's were.
    And Chip I really like you man but I'm not sure all "Lakes Modified's had narrowed bodies.
    Don't get me wrong I've seen many beautifully built fiberglass body T style rods and they have a place in the hobby but they are not Ts.
    I hope this post doesn't shut down this thread but maybe it needs to be shut down after deteriorating to this.
     
  26. maddkutter
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    Thanks to "Need Louvers" for the compliment. Im doin my best with my camera phone. Once I remove the engine from my donor car I will be able to move it outta the way and put my T out in the sun.Until then this is all I got.
     

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  27. Blue One
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    I don't think the thread had deteriorated all that much. It's just a discussion of descriptions.

    I agree with the earlier observation that before the fiberglass bodies came along no one that I remember ever referred to the steel T bodied cars as buckets.

    I may be wrong but I doubt you will find any of the early cars referred to as T buckets in the little pages publications of the time.

    Here is a shot of my 26 T steel bodied RPU that I am presently building. I fabricated a 32 style chassis.

    It is 312 Y block powered and will run lake style headers, a steel bed about 36" long and it is most definitely not a T bucket.
     

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  28. TerrytheK
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    Enough of this bullshit. Let's get back to some traditional "T" buckets! ;)

    Scanned a few from some of my thumb-worn mags for your viewing pleasure. First two came from the April '62 R&C; #3 is the Rudy Heredia '16 "T" from the Aug. '62 R&C; #4 is Fred Marasco's '23 from May '65 HRM; last one is listed as Ed Fredette's '18 "T" from coverage of the LA Roadsters Show in the Feb '62 R&C.
    Don't think any of these have been posted on this thread, unless I missed them.
     

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  29. youngster
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    " Enough of this bullshit. Let's get back to some traditional "T" buckets! ;) ''

    I agree

    Ron
     
  30. TerrytheK
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    Alrighty then, let's have a little more. Man, I love this stuff.....!!
     

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