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Traditional ...not what your thinking

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Little Wing, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. xlr8
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    The problem I see is that people try to build a "circa 1962 car" or whatever so they hunt up the parts from that era, which is fine, but then they do things that were just not done at that time. The number one thing that people get wrong when trying to do cars from this era is they build them too low. Most people just weren't building ground dragging cars back then. Look at old pics of hot rods and the thing that stands out is they sit up in the air, mounting spring perches in the radius rods, etc. just wasn't done.
     
  2. Special Ed
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    Now THAT is an introduction! Welcome! (not)
     
  3. fiftyv8
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    What, not another cowboy!!!
     
  4. Little Wing
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    I guess this is the point where the whole thread goes to hell
     
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  5. T-Time
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    Ignore that noob. He's a troll trying to hijack the thread. Just a flamer. Check out his personal profile.

    troll — a person who deliberately stirs up trouble

    hijack — go offtopic. done commonly by newbies in forums

    noob - newbie. New user.

    flamer — one who 'flames'; To rant on about some relatively uninteresting subject or with a patently ridiculous attitude or with hostility towards a particular person or group of people.

    (I'm trying to improve my posts by using cool internet slang!) ;)
     
  6. fiftyv8
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    That was his best shot, it was a cheap shot and the loser has nothing left.
     
  7. banjorear
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    I guess you don't read much either. Out of the thousands of threads on this site, this is the one you choose to make your first comment on? Great job with your introduction and, I guess judging by your comments, good bye.
     
  8. repoguy
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    Traditional Cheetos. Ol' skool dawg!!!


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  9. T-Time
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    Non-traditional Cheetos. Just a dawg.
     

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  10. RichG
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    We've got your number troll...
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  11. RichG
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    You've gone traditional! Sa-weet! :p
     
  12. oj
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    Well Chy, you might be right. All-in-all a great thread.
     
  13. DrJ
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    Traditional hot rodding is an oxymoron.
    like a point, in time.
    (In my layman's level of understanding, a point is a static geographic concept while time is a concept of motion, even if it's at the atomic level)
    Hot rodding is an endeavor of perpetual dialectic change, with the stress being on improvement, not traditional stagnation.
    What "we" are endeavoring in, "making hotrods, just like they used to" is recreation of the item from a segment of the history of hot rodding , not the idea or intent of hot rodding.
    We are taking part in a hobby more similar to restoring than the hot rodding.

    But the most important thing is ARE YOU HAVING FUN DOING IT?!? :cool:
     
  14. Little Wing
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    would'nt do it if I wasn't :)
     
  15. RichG
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    ...my head hurts now:(
     
  16. MotoVintage
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    This what attracted me to the traditional Hot Rod
    "Period Modifications"
    this is my personal restoration style, I have been restoring classic dirt bikes and cars as a hobby for 30+ years, I won't use any modern performance parts, anyone can do that, only parts that were produced while the vehicle was being raced or driven, my car has only peroid performance parts that were made before 1970, with the exception of gaskets bearings and stuff like that, I do not have a traditional Hot Rod but I love the spirit of "period style restoration" Traditional Hot Rodding
     
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  17. Dreddybear
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    i like this response.
     
  18. Mr Haney
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    fuckin ay straight dude. kinda scary but true. the california kid to me is traditional 70's rod. the teal cars with graffics [ puke] traditional 80's

    stink can honda's with boom systems are traditional for 2009

    kids set the tradition for the erra with what they have to work with. my 2 cents.....thanks
     
  19. Irish Dan
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    Theme, theme, theme!....hide the upgrades & maybe the Gods of Tradition will forgive you!
     
  20. Little Wing
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    well thread seems to wander betwwen what its about and other things,,How bout this

    anyone have full tech info on how to narrow a banjo axle for an old dragster application ??
     
  21. I know you've probably searched it...in fact I'm almost positive you have, but I know a lot of stuff doesn't always come up. This is all I've found.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40123

    Other than following those leads, I'd say find a few to practice on and break out the stick welder.:)
     
  22. Saxon
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    Right the fuck on. Street rod vs hot rod. semantics?

     
  23. If one asks for a particular techinque or part, who cares if it isn't what was done then. The real traditional hot rod or custom is one that the owner thinks is "Bitchin." Who paid for the car anyways....
     
  24. the shadow
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    Amen brother, that what I say too. I do what I can with what I have and as close to the period as I can get if someone else doesn't like it they can kiss my ass!

    Paul
     
  25. the shadow
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    not what you want to here in light of this post but it's easier to buy one done, I know where there are 2 for sale already narrowed & set up for a lyndwood chassis in phillipsburg NJ!
     
  26. yoyodyne
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    Exactly. A hot rodder does not search out obsolete technology for the sake of peer acceptance.

    The most outstanding and remembered rods of years ago were the ones that broke the mold, and used parts and technology not used by 'most everyone else'. Oddball engines were used because of bugetary constraints and attempts to find a another path to performance, not because it would get attention. No one tried to find the rarest speed goodie, they tried to afford the best performing speed goodie. And no one spent $20K for rotten sheetmetal to rebuild, they walked down the street and bought a decent used car that fit their criteria for cheap and threw away what they didn't want.
     
  27. Amen !!!
     
  28. Saxon
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    Then why aren't we all building honda's civics, toyota camrys, and ford escorts w/ 350s in them? They are readily available?

    I agree that you build what you want and can afford but isn't a 36 ford with a LS1, MMII, Disc brakes, ect... is'nt that a street rod? Maybe I am more of a restorer then a hot rodder as mentioned. Hell my cars are still 6 volt and the only air I have is when I drive faster.

    I didn't grow up in that time so maybe I just like the way a banjo looks, a flathead sounds, radial tires drift, and oil smells.
     
  29. Mr Haney
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    I tried to explain it too. guys just arent getting it. nothing wrong with the street rods and hotrods ......just dont call them traditional hot rods

    a late 40's traditional rod........Easy...

    interiors were stock , no mufflers just straight pipes, car was stripped of all extra weight
    [fenders etc], car was usually left the stock color [black]

    early 50's traditional rods are Tardell Chochran style .....not kissing Ryans ass ! ! just stating a simple fact for example.

    late 50's through early 60's was what i chose to carbon copy.......you know where im going here ! ! lotts of you guys are more savy than myself ! ! I think some of you are in denial, playing stupid to what a true traditional rod is.....You all know ! !

    peace out
     
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  30. yoyodyne
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    Please don't take my post the wrong way. I dig the old stuff as you can tell by my other posts on HAMB. I get worn out by the "more of a Hot Rodder than thou" conversations because every joe seems to think his way is the only way. Building a Period Correct Traditional Hot Rod is akin to building a period correct Model T speedster, almost all of them have non period hardware somewhere to improve it as hot rodders are prone to do. Whether it's a fuel pump, a grade 5 or grade 8 bolt, modern epoxy in the high tension magneto to keep the windings together, a modern needle and seat in the carb, or even if some part of it was modeled on a computer instead of chalked on the garage floor, a hot rodder tends to take advantage of technology available, only the die hard historian has the dedication to overlook that and keep it all authentic. I restored long before I rodded, so I'm not denigrating the dedication at all, just the opposite. But don't call recreating a 40's hot rod Hot Rodding as I've come to know and love it. Yes it is, sort of, but it's both more and less than the real thing. In the motorcycle world there are those of us who think it has all become a huge costume party, I get the same sensation at car events - a contest to see who can out 'lifestyle' the rest of the crowd rather than having it be about the machinery.
     

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