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Tips for getting the suede look to your paint

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jtlester, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. jtlester
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    In a few weeks I will be getting my model A ready for paint. I am planning on going for a nice suede or satin finish on it. I plan on spraying a PPG white sealer then I will spray on a PPG silver basecoat with out the clear. Will this give me the look that I am going for or should I still spray a clear with flatner in it? Any suggestions would help?
     
  2. Rob Paul
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    I tried using PPG flexed and flat clear. It would smudge up with fingerprints and proved impossible to clean. Some guys have had good results, but not me. I ended re- doing it with a gloss finish. WAY easier to maintain.

    Rob
     
  3. Special Ed
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    Why not just go the traditional route, and paint it shiny?
     
  4. gimpyshotrods
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    I'd spray the clear, with a flattening agent. It will hold up better than just base.
     

  5. Squablow
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    I've never tried it personally, but I've heard that uncleared basecoat will chalk up and fade off in the sun, it's really not meant to be a top coat. The flexed and flat clear is kinda pricey and apparently is hard to maintain. I've heard some people have had decent luck using acrylic enamel with a flattener added to it.
     
  6. matthew mcglothin
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    I think he needs help and suggestions about" suede paint"( thread title). Since when is satin,flat, and suede not traditional?
     
  7. Special Ed
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    I won't get into it with you here, and hijack this guy's thread, but suede was NOT a "traditional" finish on any cars in my neighborhood (Southern California) during the fifties-sixties. It was merely a temporary step taken on it's way to a shiny paint finish... :cool:
     
  8. Went to my PPG jobber and they make satin paints in their industrial urethane line, a lot cheaper than their automotive side.
     
  9. BrandonB
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  10. slammed
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    WTF? Hijax already with the paint it shiny. There are a lot of paint companies that offer semi/flat finishes. Pick your brand or what your wallet dictates.
     
  11. I painted my A with enamel (brushed) then wet sanded. Used 320 grit and worked up to 1500 grit. If I'd gone to 2-3000 grit it would have been a nice suede finish, but I wanted that old barn look.
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  12. 64ONEOFF
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    JOHN DEER BLITZ BLACK. comes out great, very inexpensive, and repells gas oils etc etc.... I along with many other people have been using it for awhile....GOOD STUFF. And gives a great satin finish.:)
     
  13. WDO40
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    I like single stage with 30 or 40 percent flatner works good
     
  14. jtlester
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    Thanks for the input guys. Im not really wanting to get into the "traditional" paint it shiny battle back and forth. I don't know what it is but I am really liking the way that the metallic paints look in a satin finish. Just want some input from some experienced people who know what would hold up.
     
  15. restojon
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    Base coat has no UV protection and will not hold up to chemicals and solvents (gasoline, brake cleaner, etc). If you gotta have flat, either use a flatening agent in the clear or go with one of the hot rod flatz or House of Kolors hot rod flat colors. We use the flatening agent to get the correct flat black on our restorations at my shop and it works great.
     
  16. matthew mcglothin
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    I agree!
     
  17. gimpyshotrods
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    Its UV resistance is not too good. I used to use it on my actual John Deere. Always failed after a few years.
     
  18. jtlester
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    I have heard a lot about hot rod flatz, any body have any luck with it. Is it better to spray with just a single stage for this type of application?
     
  19. Gator
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    Painted my Shoebox with HRF satin copper pearl, it is single stage. Turned out nice, just remember whatever you spray is what you get, no wet sanding or buffing it. I'd use it again...


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  20. Frank32
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    You should check out SEM products the recently came out with a satin silver (Hot Rod Silver), I have use the satin black. Really easy to shoot, dries slow so you end up with a smooth finish (no tiger stripe). My friend just shot his Model A the darker silver (smoke) looks GREAT. see link below

    http://semproducts.com/Catalog.asp?prod=343
     
  21. jcmarz
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    You hit that nail square on the head.
     
  22. jtlester
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    The 36 Plymouth in my avatar was shot with the SEM HotRod Black. It turned out pretty nice and seems like it will hold up nice. Do you have a pic of your friends Model A?
     
  23. kingofalldrunks
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    That thing is beautiful. Sorry to jack the thread. How much chop? Any more pics? Thanks!

     
  24. you can use either the PPG flex-n-flat dcu2060 mixed in with a quality clear or you could use PPG universal flattening agent SU4985 mixed with a clear...check out the p-sheets on these products for mixing ratio
     
  25. Frank32
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    Here is a picture of my friend's recently painted (suede look) model A, using SEM product.
     

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  26. gimpyshotrods
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    HRF is a single stage paint, with the flattening agent already mixed in. It is a re-brand. I forget who actually makes it. I am sure a quick search would reveal it.
     
  27. Rob Paul
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    I think its rebranded Limco single stage paint. OEM colors with a flattner added (and a cool label and name!!)

    Rob

     
  28. young'n'poor
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    Not to derail this thread, but h.a.m.ber el bombero(sp?) Has a 32 tudor sedan he painted with hot rod flatz and later got sick of the suede and buffed it out. It ended up looking pretty damn good, like rubbed out lacquer.
     
  29. young'n'poor
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  30. davey_shumard
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    What is the proper procedure for washing this stuff? i love the look, but i know that you probably cant just scrub it can you? i used to work as a harley mech, and we had the denim bikes come out when i was there, they told us to use window cleaner and that it wouldn't smudge the paint.
     

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