Hot Rods The ultimate sleeper?!?

Recently made some trades happen and came into a very potent small block. I wanna build the ultimate sleeper.....ugly, cheesy, or otherwise unwanted cars are what im curious about. What, in your opinion, is the ultimate sleeper starter chassis. And where do you go from purchase.....(build thread to follow possibly?!)

 

i am thinking something 4 doors and early 60's That would be ugly cheesy and slightly unwanted

 

60-62 Plymouth Valiant. Only thing uglier might be one of those French Citroens.

 

Mid-size 4dr, rusty, white or beige. Maybe whitewalls. Rambler, Plymouth, maybe the right Chevelle or Fairlane. I know where a rusted-out 4dr '66 Stude is sitting, it sure looks the part.

 

How about a 1961 Pontiac Tempest... small, ugly and nobody would see it coming until it was too darn late....

 

I don't know if i should take offense to that or not. But they are kinda ugly.

 

How about something in the AMC Rambler family? Cheap, decent size, & room for a big block. There's a '59 Rebel on ebay that in no way looks fast, yet has style.

 

Fairmont four door. Light, cheap, common, and ordinary. Absolutely blends in with the surroundings. Lots of chassis parts in common with Mustangs, and plenty of room to fit whatever motor you decide. An early Falcon stands out too much fifty years after it was built; a not-too-shiny Fairmont is just an old car.

I concede that it isn't HAMB-friendly, but you asked....

 

No one would notice the new rear suspension and straight rear end?

Too much work!

 

Definitely has to be a 4 door and have full wheel covers, preferably 14 inch. I love the idea of a Rambler, an early 60's 770 Classic or Ambassador, preferably tan, with a touched up original paint job and nothing visible from the outside or interior to hint that it's anything but bone stock.

They are known rust buckets, so you'd really have to search out a clean one, and you'd want some beefy subframe connectors and a heavier rearend. But disc brake swaps are bolt-on from the late 70's and early 80's Eagles (I was told, along with other suspension components possibly) so you could keep the original front suspension.

 

1986 Town & Country Station Wagon. Sorry I had to list my first car. Definately a sleeper. Normal 4cyl Turbo.

 

Agree with it being a four-door ugly baby. If we're sticking to HAMB guidelines, I'd go for a '50s Studebaker Champion 4dr. They're really light, but with an engine compartment which easily swallows a SBC.

However, the ultimate sleeper has to appear comatose right up until it sucks the money out of the hot lookin' car's driver's pocket. Can't have a rump-rump idle and a scoop through the hood. Can't have any visible traction devices or big'n littles.

Those which work best are turbocharged or NOS. Done right, they don't give a single external clue.

jack vines

 

1963 Nova four door sedan, fresh off granny's estate sale. Bonus points for plastic seat covers, full hubcaps on 13" steelies, and single tail pipe.

 

you would be surprised at how simple it is. I just did one recently(convertible).There are a couple of shots in my albums. I used a 9" Ford rear,coil-overs, and a Pete & Jake's triangular 4-bar kit.Power comes from a 389 / 4-speed. The Temptest has a very sturdy uni-body structure that was just right for this modification.

 

maybe 64-5 chevelle 4 dr , 66-67 fairlaine 4 dr , mid 60s fullsize 4 dr , I remember walking down concession st in hamilton mid 80s , full size chev kingswood wagon with 427 badges - woodgrain sides , maybe a wagon is the way to go ...

 

The "ultimate sleeper" anymore is gonna be way too new to be Hamb friendly. Somethin' like the 4-door Fairmont idea...stealth, but disgusting...lol.

Love the Valiant idea, but the old stuff might not fool anybody anymore. Could be anything under that hood. But I think the idea is still cool.

Even old VWs don't fly too well here on the Hamb, but if it can do a wheelie, they slip in sometimes. I've always had an interest in the Crown and Kellmark conversion kits to build a mid-engined SBC-powered Bug. Not necessarily real ugly, but man they gotta scoot.

 

Right here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just wanted to add some fun!!!!!

 

AMC Pacer!

 

hows about a 4 door tri-five? they can be found alot of places and on the cheap. maybe not sleeper enough though?

 

"ULTIMATE" sleeper? '78 Ford Fairmont 4 door I understand it's basically a Mustang chassis. But we won't talk about that here.

I used to know a guy that had an early 60's Rambler that he transplanted the drive train out of a wrecked '69 390 AMX into it, engine, sway bars, limited slip differential, the works. Back then radial tires were just starting to be used and he ran a set of Michelin radial narrow whitewalls with full stock wheel covers. It looks like an old ladies car but boy could it run.
Something like this.


Doc

 

lots of sleepers have been built - 4 doors - mid size - maybe '63-'65 GM so, engine will bolt in easier, etc. - can't be too perfect or too rusty - everything visible inside and out must look stock - column shifter - tach, etc hidden - hard thing will be traction on skinny tires and no hi-performance engine sounds-maybe electric cut outs - inside hood latch to keep prying eyes out - you need to dress like a Geek too -

 

One of the magazines ran an article about the ultimate sleeper. It was a '65 Malibu 4 door, column shift and full wheel covers. The advantage? Engine swap would be easy. The car had the wheel covers screwed to the rims and the shift light was the high beam indicator. I believe the car ran 10's without nitrous, but it was a long time ago.

 

mint green 61 dodge with a 413 4 door with full dish hubcaps and skirts some rust stops on it and fuzzy dice must look like you think its cool so they know why you want to race

 

A Family Truckster. Complete with luggage rack.

 

not H.A.M.B. friendly, 1973 Chrysler Station Wagon

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/3409590818.html

 

You couldn't get that fucking station wagon to go fast bolted to an SR-71!! It's HUGE!!!

Doc.

 

the 440 and 727 sure would help though.

 

2-door Lark

 

Not hamb friendly at all, but a beat up mazda rx-7. Do all the typical ricer stuff to it (stickers, crappy spray can paint job, useless spoiler, colored rims). power it with a healthy sbc or ls v8 and have the exhaust exit through two fart cans. Nobody would see it coming.

 

checker cab, how embarrassing would it be to get your ass kicked by a beat up checker.

Fenderless