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THE oldsmobile rocket 303 324 371 394 post to end all other posts, (lasalle related )

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by RocketDaemon, Dec 19, 2006.

  1. there is actually one in the green block, that looks fair and another one, that seems worn beyond repair. Keep in mind, that I need to build a complete engine, for a customer's Super 88. Although, would most likely buy a new cam and lifter package. I can inspect it, for you.
    JT
     
  2. langy
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    I got the cam for my 59 394 from Herbert cams, it's a lovely cam
     
  3. KingShift
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    Yes I make an AL Bell Housing for the 1949-64 Olds engine and the 1949-54 Cadillac engine that allows you to use a Chevy 3, 4, 5, and 6 speed trans. Thanks. Tom King 609 397-0161
     
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  4. Mac's Speed here in New Zealand also do an Alloy bell for the Early Rockets which will take a bunch of trans options .
    https://www.facebook.com/macsspeed
    These guys have a dealer in Ca and sell a few of these in the US .
     
  5. GOATROPER02
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    from OHIO

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    Trans conversions as well as any stock or speed part you can dream up for your early Olds ......We probably have it..... Because we make it.......
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  6. Paul
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    'pulled a virgin '58 371 apart Friday and was a bit surprised to find the head gaskets were a single layer thin steel shim style gasket, measuring about .025 thick
    used by the factory to bump compression, first ones I've found
    anybody have a pair? or singles?

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    .025 head gasket 2.jpg
     
  7. figure8
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    My memory is that the 57- 58 J-2 had him steel head gaskets. Also had 3x2 intake.
     
  8. Paul
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    yes but,
    this engine had a single 2bbl but will be getting the J2 manifold and carbs

    here's a couple pictures of it in all it's crusty glory
    mocked up with J2 carbs and manifold, generator moved up top, dimpled valve covers, it's a stick motor from the factory now with the guts and tail of the stock selector transmission transplanted into a '37 Buick top shift case
    and the tear down, dropped the short block off at the machine shop Friday
    it could go with less of a cut but I'm going .060 over because I already had a set of pistons,
    it will get an Isky hydraulic cam

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  9. How's that rebuild coming, @Paul ?
     
  10. Paul
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    got the bearings and oil pump kit last friday and bolted the short block together last Saturday,
    pastigauge all bearings looked right where they are supposed to be.
    dropped the heads off Monday for clean and mag,
    haven't heard from the shop yet on them.
    expecting they check out good
    but also expect to put all new in them; valves, guides, seats and probably springs.

    here is the fresh block,

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  11. The_Stig
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    Nice eye candy you posted there.
    What's the purpose of binding those lifter sets together?
     
  12. Paul
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    roller lifters
     
  13. falcongeorge
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    I need to build a transport cradle for a 324 short block by next weekend. I usually use 2x8 on edge, spaced so that the pan rails rest on the top edge of the 2x8, and the body of the pan just drops between the 2x8s. Then I just nail 2x4s across the open ends of the 2x8 across the bottom.
    Then when I get it home, I add casters so I can roll it around easy.

    So what I need to know is the width and length of the pan minus the width of the pan rails. Can anyone measure one for me?
     
  14. 9x21.5
    That's without any clearance.

    Don't forget to put a notch in there for the dipstick!
     
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  15. falcongeorge
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    Perfect! Thanks. I'll bang one togther tomorrow.
     
  16. F&J
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    I get 9.25 on a 55 324 pan.

    Yes 21 long or so

    15 inches from the front of the 2 x 8, is the center of the "bump". Just gouge it with circular saw or whatever..

    The 2 x 8 is not quite tall enough near the front of the sump/drain plug. So either run a strip of 1 x 2 along each 2 x 8, or Maybe two "cross-ways" 2 x 4's at the front and very back, screwed to the 2 x 8's, would also keep the motor from flopping over, while getting the front of sump off the floor?

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  17. falcongeorge
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    Fantastic Frank. I probably have some 2x10, I'll use that. Thanks for the info on the location of the hump. I build these things for every motor, its so handy to just be able to roll them around. I dont like to leave motors hanging on engine stands long term, besides, they arent very stable.
     
  18. KingShift
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    The Oldsmobile pan width dimension is 10 15/16" from outside to outside the frame rails. The frame rails are 15/16" wide and you have 17" that you can pickup on the frame rail length. On the right side pan rail you have the notch for the dip stick.. Good Luck. Tom King
     
  19. falcongeorge
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    Built it yesterday.:D 9.25 inside to inside, so your dimensions verify that it should fit anyway. Thanks Tom. Usually when I build one of these, I have the engine in hand, makes things easier.
     
  20. Paul
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    It will be in a simple cradle when you pick it up (like below), good for rolling around the shop and short transport but yours will be better for long haul and across borders.

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    the subject in question..
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  21. WOW, you got more Rockets, than Cape Canaveral!;)
    Good ideas, I need to safely transport my shiny rebuilt 394, from my garage to the shop, where I will be dropping it in the 98. Actually thought of making a little test stand to fire it up, beforehand.
    JT
     
  22. Paul
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  23. Jep, test stand is a good idea:
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  24. Paul
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  25. F&J
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    ^ ^ Those are my personal favorites of all the Olds motor types, and transmission choices. Bar none.

    My Roadmaster just shifts sooooo nice.....

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  26. falcongeorge
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    Holy crap!! Not sure if that 6-71 will fit under the hood of my '39!!:eek::p
    I am so pumped about finally getting my mitts on a rocket for that car. Really excited about the valve covers too, that was totally unexpected. Paul, you truly are the Rocket Man! Thank you sir!

    IMO, wood is really good for these, it wont scratch paint or chrome, and the pan bolts embed into it, so they dont slide around AT ALL.
     
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  27. U-235
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    Since we're showin off motors.....
     

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  28. U235, nice Olds. It is great to see all these Olds engines coming back to life!
     
  29. Are we showing off Olds motors? :rolleyes:
    Alright, here is another one I'm working on. Then I'm out...
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  30. Ok, Ok, enough already; my jeans are getting tight!

    Paul, that left side exhaust manifold, (your post #537) closely resembles the factory unit, but with
    a header flange. Is this something you fabbed up? Looks like a "block hugger" style that would
    clear the early Ford steering box nicely....
     

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