The Official Paint Code Thread

I've set on a recent quest to find the perfect shade of paint for my model A. There are a few threads here on the HAMB regarding paint codes for particular colors but to my knowledge there is no main database type of thread. Sure there are good sites out there like TCP global that have decent info, but let's see some HAMB friendly cars with paint info. Just post a pic of your car and any info you can think of. Maybe the name of the color, brand #, color chart,etc, or what ever you have. This could be useful to a lot of HAMBers out there!

 

this would be great, I have found some codes on TCP are not available (local paint store does not recoginize due to age of color. (computer does not go back that far.)

I would love to find the paint code for a 1941 Ford maroon color.

 

I've had the same thing happen!

 

It's not that the codes are not available it is they are not available from that particular paint manufacturer. Almost all old codes are either Ditzler (PPG) or Dupont so you need to go to a store that sells the paint you have the code for. Any PPG dealer should be able to use the code that TCP has for the '41 Ford Maroon. My local PPG jobbers computer was able to pull up the mixing info for a 1928 Ford Color from the TCP code I provided.

 

Don't count on it I spend north of 100 bucks mixing a gm gold and no one ever got it to my liking
PPG Dupont no one
I'm now trying to find a factory Green for my 40 ford any one have a guess on this one

 

What does not "to your liking mean" ? It didn't match an original paint sample you had, it didn't match some picture you saw of the color? There is a lot to what a final color looks like. If you are trying to match an original finish you need to paint in the same materials, use the same color sealers, number of coats etc. No modern urethane paint is going to look the same as an original 1940 paint job.

 

Check this out... Mayfair Maroon? Volanta Coach Maroon? http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?&manuf=Ford&year=1941&con=my&rows=50&sort=name

 

Good fuckin luck with your quest for " The perfect colour " given the choak hold the EPA and all the local commie- brown shirt air resources boards have on the paint industry

All the old paint codes in the world will be as worthless as mule cum if you can't get the proper mixing bases. By federal fiat, the removal of all the heavy metals like lead, zinc, cadmium, cobalt & chromium have left us with paints that are no longer " orginic '' in nature, basicly chemical colours or dyes.

That's not to say you can't get a match on an old code, only that you shouldn't be prepared to be thrilled to elation with the result.


" Picture all experts as if they were mammels ''

 

HAHA that was what I was trying to convey in a less succinct way.

 

Perhaps I should have been more specific for this thread.
Step 1: post pic of your car
Step 2: state what paint it is that is on your car.
It might be a bit lengthy to navigate, but it could help a bunch of us on the HAMB pick a color for our ride.

 

Dupont single stage spectramaster cloud mist grey on coupe

 

Oh my.Now THIS will be interesting.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

 

Martin Senour Crossfire, Light Artic Gray base/clear with light gray Crossfife high build primer. 1993 -- 2003 Dodge full size van. Code PSC
( And my recently photoshopped wide whites and red wheels )

 

ya, but the issue was the local PPG dealer could not look up the code, it was not in their system they said.

I basically need the ratio of mixes to build the color (to tell the paint store)

 

Weird like I said mine was able to get me a mix ratio on an older color and in waterbourne which is all we can get up here. I do know that they had to use only the numerical part of the code and drop the letters at the beginning to get it to come up. Not sure if that helps.

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Perfect! Great info! I do love me a light gray hot rod.

 

No one else knows what color is on their car?

 

Here are a couple to kick things along that I have picked up of the HAMB and kept for future reference.

The first is 1972 Dodge
The second is 1959 Austin Healy

 

Next is 1949 thru to 1953 Ford car colors I believe.

 

Just choose black, how hard can that be ! I know there different shades of black but not many ? The paint we get today is 10 times better than that old shit with reducers and thinners in it , just wear a fresh air mask and shoot the damn paint ! It's 2014 not 1940 , things change and so should we ! Get over it !

 

Here is an early Ford F100 set of colors...


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Ford color codes are normally always two characters, i.e. UA, <YN></YN>. The codes below can have an additional code after the /. i.e. UA/M6373. In nearly all cases, you can ignore the /M6373 part and just look for the two letter code. ​

</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>1960 Ford All Other Models Locate Color Identification Plate Color Information Source FAQ'S. </TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>Color </TD><TD>Color Description </TD><TD>Color Code </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Raven Black A (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#000000 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#000000>
</TD><TD>Raven Black</TD><TD>A (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Aquamarine C (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#45707B type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#45707b>
</TD><TD>Aquamarine</TD><TD>C (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Belmont Blue Poly E (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#6D9CCB type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#6d9ccb>
</TD><TD>Belmont Blue Poly</TD><TD>E (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Surf Foam Blue F (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#A4BDCA type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#a4bdca>
</TD><TD>Surf Foam Blue</TD><TD>F (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Yosemite Yellow G (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#E4D854 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#e4d854>
</TD><TD>Yosemite Yellow</TD><TD>G (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Beechwood Brown Poly H (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#8F5845 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#8f5845>
</TD><TD>Beechwood Brown Poly</TD><TD>H (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Monte Carlo Red J (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#D11F11 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#d11f11>
</TD><TD>Monte Carlo Red</TD><TD>J (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Sultana Turquoise K (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#54787A type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#54787a>
</TD><TD>Sultana Turquoise</TD><TD>K (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Corinthian White M (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#F8F6EE type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#f8f6ee>
</TD><TD>Corinthian White</TD><TD>M (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Orchid Gray Poly Q (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#7D7573 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#7d7573>
</TD><TD>Orchid Gray Poly</TD><TD>Q (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Meadowvale Green Poly T (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#136B49 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#136b49>
</TD><TD>Meadowvale Green Poly</TD><TD>T (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Adriatic Green W (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#589470 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#589470>
</TD><TD>Adriatic Green</TD><TD>W (1960) </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#e9e9e9><INPUT value="Platinum Poly Z (1960)
" type=radio name=paint><INPUT value=#ABAEB5 type=hidden name=color></TD><TD bgColor=#abaeb5>
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Always verify your color code on your vehicle! Do not order paint based on the paint name or color samples shown above.
There can also be additional colors, especially interior, trim and wheel not shown above. Please note:
The VIN does not give us your color code. It only gives us any paint formula variance in an existing color code.

 

Another great link;

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?&manuf=Ford&year=1941&con=my&rows=50&sort=name

 

I've been holding onto a piece of my old 48 Plymouth Station Wagon which is Cruiser Maroon. The paint guy here has a spectrograph (?) which he says will get the paint as close to, or right on, as possible with todays materials. Love the color and going to use it on my next T roadster project.

 

That comment seems a little unfair...

 

Ok, I have been looking for a site or better still a hard copy of 49-53 ford colors but can only seem to find very small images! can anyone direct me to a site that has decent size images of the shades?
Cheers Gerry

 

I guess I am lucky my buddy still has all his cards for the mixing station we had at the shop , problem is they are not in order .. and some are missing . I just got my color from a chip card from e bay and we try to match it in the new paint chip books . but the codes for mixing are on it but the base paint needed to mix it is not available anymore .( high solids metallic) so we are going to do some experimenting .

 

I've said it before, and I'm actually jumping off where pimpin stopped. You want the "real look" to the opaque colors so many yearn for? Ask your jobber to mix it with as many TONERS as he can without moving toward transparent. The 2 most common base colors UNDER THE OEM MATERIALS was either dark red oxide or black. Very few went over grey shades. Some, but few. IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. "But why Highlander? Paint is paint, isn't it?" No, it isn't. You could "see through" old paints. I said that to simplify the explanation. Hold a piece of colored lexan to the sun. You can't see all the way through it but light gets in, even all the way to the substrates. Now think tinted window colors like old gassers. I could go on and on here but I think I made the point. DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK.

Had 41 Lincoln/Ford Volante Coach Maroon made. The 1st batch was nice. Well, until I took it outdoors it was. Looked pastey, blah, like a faded photo. It was tested on an old rounded fender. From 30' away you couldn't really make out the roundness! I asked for transparent colors to be used in the same formula, anywhere possible or be creative. Night and day. Deep, played the shape of the metal, true color. And yes it was applied over black. This should be enough info for your memory banks. Even light colors respond different to their base colors in all the ways we see as "right".

 

Boones, I'm looking for that "perfect maroon " also. I have found some interesting choices. Look at '63 T Bird Heritage Burgundy, code 50693 '64 T Bird Vintage Burgundy code 50657 DuPont Go Fast Maroon and I think the one I will use is 1940 Ford truck "Coach Maroon Bright" chip 1762 MFG code QDE 727 Ford 68-76 50746 is also a possibility. There doesn't seem to be a lot of difference in these maroons except for the type of poly used. I was surprised that poly was used in the 40's

 

Hey,

The '' poly '' you mentioned wasn't a polyurethane resin based finish, but a finely ground metalic ( aluminum flake ) suspended in a synthetic enamel (Alkyd ) clear. True '' poly '' based finishes were another two and a half decades away in the 40's. The acrylic enamel resin based finishes kicked in around 1958 for production paint jobs.

 

Sorry pimp, true poly finishes, as in metallic, have been around since 1928. They were a rare occurrence, yet they were around. Short story, the ball bearings used to grind up some red 'Japan' for 3 Cadillac show cars had left metal dust in the final paint. 2 were refinished, one they'd hope nobody would notice. They did and most flipped and loved it. Even true pearl was around in the early 30s. It was done with dried ground fish scale and oyster shell. Coachbuilders would use it to highlight sensual curves in their offerings.

We're always on the same page bro. Just wanted to drop some early auto folklore in the topic. That aside, the term poly was also used in the unforgettable 70 Mopar "Limelight Green Poly", and there's not a drop of metallic in it Yes, it's that high impact bright green, one of their silly colors from the days of bell bottoms and flower power.