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The last Belond W header

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 777, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. 777
    Joined: Jul 17, 2008
    Posts: 196

    from Pasadena

    Just had this W-1 Belond header made with the help of the last living Belond employee. The set, when finished, are going on Sandy's roadster but you won't be able to see the collectors then so I thought I'd post this so people could see what real Belonds actually looked like.
    What a difference between these and the pop-offs.
    I'll post a shot of the collector as it was being assembled. It's tricky to build without getting any tube over-hanging into the collector

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  2. Shifty Shifterton
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
    Posts: 4,964

    Shifty Shifterton

    The merge is a thing of beauty. Sure is funny how true craftsmanship and art seem to intersect all the time.
  3. Fogger
    Joined: Aug 18, 2007
    Posts: 1,635


    That is a beautiful piece of workmanship. The FOGGER
  4. I love Belond styled headers.....very nice work with added meaning too.

    Well done.


  5. Nice. Actually look like a bit more finish detail than the originals
  6. 777
    Joined: Jul 17, 2008
    Posts: 196

    from Pasadena

    Where rough cutting the merge collector for the primaries in this shot.
    The dykem line is the o.d. of the two primaries.
    Geoge had me scribe the outside of the tubing on to the collector and then die grind to within the .062-inch of the line so there would be nothing obstructing the flow in the pipes from the collector or the tubing.
    He was kind enough to take the time to put me through a nuts and bolts education of how custom headers were made at Belonds in the 40's and 50's. He started out sweeping up and eventually worked his way up to the custom fit up shop. George used to make Offy headers for the big cars, sprints and midgets he also did most all of the lakes cars that were sponsored by Belonds, like the Post Streamliner and the Tom Beatty Lakester. He was also proud of the fact that he was there when they worked on the header for the Indy 500 winning Salih built Belond Special that won Indy in '57 and '58.

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  7. 777
    Joined: Jul 17, 2008
    Posts: 196

    from Pasadena

    I had to make an entirely new set of W headers when I found out that Sandy had added the SCTA required 3-foot exhaust extension to his W headers.

    The extensions are actually megaphones, tapering from 2-inches at the collector to 2 1/2-inches at the "baloney cut." The tapers for the magaphones was fabricated the "old way" by folding sheet metal over a fence pole and then tacking the edge and cutting the excess and finally brazing the seam closed with the desired taper.

    The short turn radi at the flange took forever. I always wondered why Belond Headers had so much fill rod in the joints. What I found was they would add the extra brazing rod to the tubing so they could grind away at it later to form a proper short turn.

    Last but not least it is a pain to make a center dump header (Belond W Header) for a Flathead V8 in a 32 frame with the stock steering box and wishbone; there simply is no spare room and with this roadster it is even more involved because it has a column shift and those rods pass right by the number 8 primary. The last 2 pics are of the number 8 cylinder's primary tube. It basically turns right and then needs to go 180 into the collector. I used a set screw and a jam nut to fasten the lower side of the header flange since it isn't possible to slide a bolt between the tube and flange.

    Now that they are polished, their off to the platers for a coating of nickel.

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  8. Offset
    Joined: Nov 9, 2010
    Posts: 1,734

    from Canada

    Incredible craftsmanship. Beautiful piece from a shop with such a great history. Thank you for sharing the story and photos.
  9. great work men...
  10. The pipe work is really something .
    That mounting flange ,,,,well,,,, I'll just say it doesn't match
  11. Terry O
    Joined: Oct 12, 2004
    Posts: 1,060

    Terry O


  12. FlynBrian
    Joined: Oct 5, 2007
    Posts: 759


    Very Nice! Great craftmanship.
  13. Jim Bouchard
    Joined: Mar 2, 2011
    Posts: 776

    Jim Bouchard

  14. U-235
    Joined: Dec 18, 2010
    Posts: 452


    Boy, that looks so much better than my original one.....horrible welds.
  15. tommyd
    Joined: Dec 10, 2010
    Posts: 11,591

    from South Indy

    Very nice! Thanks for letting us in on this.
  16. 777
    Joined: Jul 17, 2008
    Posts: 196

    from Pasadena

    Quote from my intro yourself thread.

    It is possibly you have a set of copies. I know he made tens of thousands of headers but very few exist today and the majority of the stuff I've seen are pop-offs of his designs.

    Attached some samples:
    The NOS Y-Block headers were the off-the-shelf Belond Equa-Flow line sold through Sandy's company The Southern California Muffler Company. This is a typical quality header of the time. Most manufacturer produced equivilant headers.

    The two "center dump" pics or Belond Headers as they have been coined, are headers that came from the Southern California Muffler Service line, Sandy's other shop in the Post-War years. The Muffler Service line was the custom shop for the racers.

    Last scan is of a Bell Auto ad featuring Belond.

    I probably just confused everyone further.

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  17. yetiskustoms
    Joined: May 22, 2009
    Posts: 1,930


    incredible work. love the flow...
  18. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
    Posts: 8,862


    It says a lot about the craft that people put into something as mundane as headers. A tip of the hat to the folks who care and take pride in their life's work. Thanks for sharing.
  19. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
    Posts: 18,341

    from BC

    This threads a keeper. Good stuff.

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