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  1. theHIGHLANDER
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    It'll open at $100K and race up to a "reality" pretty quick. That reality is probably a hammer price of $625,000 which is $687,500 all in. That's realistic given it's history and past performance of such stuff with an added measure for inflation (check all results lately).

    @Moriarity is right, customs seldom to never do well, but the caveat is Mercs. In the car world people only know "chopped merc" and tend to pay over market for anything that's a 49-50 Mercury custom. This one? It's "the one" and has had all the mystique, urban legend, clones and more around it it's whole life. How that plays might be way higher than I'm even giving it credit for but that shit sells. Still, it's not likely to be seen at the weekly cruise night wherever it ends up. Some mega collection or genuine enthusiast will get it and most exposure will be limited to the occasional concours and some specialty events paying tribute to the era and builders. That's my take, and even though I think I could be way wrong (too low) I can't help but stay with how customs generally suck at auction. And why Mecum? I have a lot of respect for their ability but a Barrett Jackson sale would get out-of-the-park silly. At the same time given the success with "Bullitt", The Kookie Car and Golden Sahara recently by Mecum, maybe...?
     
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  2. Seriously......$1.5 I think it would do better at Barrett Jackson than Mecum....
     
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  3. Moriarity
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    Barrett Jackson is no reserve......
     
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  4. Jalopy Joker
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    "slightly" more than I can afford
     
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  5. jimmy six
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    I would never license it. It not a law it must be.. only if driven on public streets.. 99% of Leno’s aren’t because he lives in Taxifornia also.
     
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  6. theHIGHLANDER
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    But they do their "salon" sales that do have a reserve. Surely for a price, and it would have to be Scottsdale for that as I don't think they offer it at all of their sales.

    Speaking of reserve, how about a guess to that? My guess was your 1st hit at $500K but I think it tops it. If Mecum puts themselves all in and markets the car well the right final 2 bidders could show and drive the bids high. Worldwide just sold a 42 Packard Darrin, a really nice one, but it hammered at $800,000 plus 10% for a sale of $880,000. There isn't (wasn't?) a Darrin ever made that was worth that but can't say it now. Significant cars kill when inflation is high and the econmy is full of speed bumps. It always has been that way. All results are showing that right now IF, and ONLY IF, it's something significant. We also get more action, more bidders who have the means and realize all of this stuff is financially recognized tangible assets. Been holding anyone? Time to think about it...;)
     
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  7. stuart in mn
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    I'm thinking it will be in the $1 million range. Customs may not historically sell that well, but then again what other custom has been put on display on the National Mall?

    hirohata.jpg
     
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  8. Stu
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    $859000
     
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  9. Nacifan
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    The Calori coupe sold for $40700. I'm betting this amazing ride will go for 875,000.
    I'd like to donate my winning swag to a local trade school
     
  10. JimSibley
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    635000$ give or take 500$
     
  11. bt34
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    $623,000.oo
     
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    I Like Tacos

  13. guy1unico
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    $1,250.000
    Anyone under $1,000,000 did not watch the video
     
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  14. A Boner
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  15. 5window
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    I was basing my question about what Mecum paid for it on this supposition. I know they are "only" an auction house.
     
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  16. Way too much, and then to be locked away in some gold chain, pinky ring wearing snobs collection never to be seen by again.
     
  17. My first thought was $500.000 and I am sticking to that. Realistically I would say its near that million mark due to the history of the car and just from a market look a custom Merc is the best type of custom to sell as its "the" custom car, kinda like how a 32 Ford is "the" hot rod, but customs at auctions usually run low it seems. I hope it brings more than the half a million Im guessing. I feel the car deserves that.
     
  18. 5window
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    To be honest, not everyone with wealth is a "gold chain, pinky ring wearing snob". There are quite a few fine automobile car collectors who are fortunate to have significant funds but share their collections.The Simeone's in Philadelphia, Jay Leno, the Justice Brothers out in CA. They're out there.

    Which brings up two more thoughts. If I spend all that money and keep it in my garage, is that different significantly from you not wanting anybody to see your own small collection of, say, petroliana? If you buy it, isn't it yours?
    Two, how is buying it an putting it away different from the guy who stashes a garage full of Deuces he's "going to fix up someday"? so they're not for sale as they rot into the ground?

    Who gets to set the rules?
     
  19. 5window
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    It's iconic and it's historically relevant, but it's not Great in the broad sense of the word. Not even every diehard customs person likes it, though everyone recognizes it's significant place in the evolution of customs. Cross the number of potential buyers who really love it with the subset of those who can afford it and that is probably a pretty small number. But, then again, it only takes two bidders to run it up. It is fun to conjecture. We'll see,
     
  20. Joe Troilo
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    The car has to be one of the most recognized customs of all times. I think the car goes over the million mark and maybe reaches close to two. There are several big money collectors around for this type of icon. Final answer 1.5 to 2.0 million.
     
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  21. The37Kid
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    I'll guess $1,066.000. Is there a bonus if I say it is going to Pennsylvania collection?

    Bob
     
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  22. wolfie1961
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    My bet is on Palo Alto or Dallas.
     
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  23. $683,212
     
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  24. spanners
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    No good to me if it hasn't got a towbar so I'll stick to my original offer of $1.50 and take the risk.
     
  25. Lil32
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    $419320
     
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  26. 4bangerbob
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    2.6 million
     
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  27. stanlow69
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    Sorry, I don`t gamble.
     
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  28. My prediction:

    Elon Musk will be the highest bidder at $690,420 ... and (unfortunately :() will yank the 331ci Cadillac V8:

    Hirohata Mercury 1953 331ci Cadillac V8.jpg

    ... in favor of a "Tesla Crate Motor":

    EV-West Tesla Crate Motor (1)jpg.jpg
    EV-West Tesla Crate Motor (2).jpg
     
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  29. Onceler
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    430,000 euros
     
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