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Hot Rods The EUROPEAN DEUCE thread

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  1. 57snrf
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    From the Euro Deuces Facebook page, a UK-built '32 Tudor (Picture: Pete Dempsey) 11080736_10153226499971081_8169210649391869388_o[PeteDempsey].jpg
     
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    I'm in love with this


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  3. 32 4door
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    Interesting thread good to read and learn about something new to me
     
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  4. Ned Ludd
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    That one belongs to Hispano here on the HAMB. Here is the build thread.

    Have you seen the Coachbuilt Early Fords thread?
     
  5. clem
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    image.jpg both from the small town that I live in in New Zealand
     
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  7. 57snrf
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    Another one from the Euro Deuces Facebook page: a '32 Tudor from France. (Photo: Marc Woltinger) 11071163_10153270924062784_8842629511400575655_o[MarcW].jpg
     
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    OOOOO, LA LA
     
  9. 57snrf
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    From the Euro Deuces Facebook page, a '32 Fordor from Denmark. (Photo: Toft Bredahl)
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  10. Note that the door bottom does not have the integral reveal as the Euro bodies do either...
     
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  13. clem
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    There are 4 x running 1932 Fords in the town I live in. These 2 belong to the same guy. After suffering a severe stroke some years ago, he still managed to drive the sport coupe on a 1100km (800mile) round trip for the NZ deuce days in November 2012. A friend of his drove the English tudor to the same event. He also has another English '32 tudor body. He is known as an authority on flatheads, and the first one I turn to when stuck dealing with Henry's famous flatheads.....
     
  14. 57snrf
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    Cool Clem. So they sold "European" (i.e., with suicide doors) sedans in NZ? Or was the car imported by this gentleman from Europe?
     
  15. 57snrf
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    From the UK.
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  16. 57snrf
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    From France. (Photo: Etienne Butterlin @ PowerGlide Magazine)
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  17. clem
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    In reply to post 45...... I'm not 100% sure. I know that it has been in NZ for years, and 30 years ago there were some here, so I presume that they were brought in new. Most of our American cars back then came from Canada, (Not USA) as no tariffs, as Canada was part of British Empire. So I assumed that some also came from England. We certainly had Model Ys etc from England.
     
  18. Ddooce
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    My understanding is that the UK factory built 2 and 4 door cars and pickup trucks. The 3 window and cabriolets were imported from Canada for reasons of Empire tariff preference. The imported cars were specially built for the market without cowl lights and with parking lights on top of the front fenders. And with RHD.

    Mine has a chassis number starting C18************* and was registered as a 33 - in the UK a cars year is the date it was first registered not the date of manufacture.

    The Ford 14 refers to 14HP in the old RAC rating system - most of the cars were 4 cyl with a smaller engine than the US four bangers.

    Ford's 8HP the model Y was their big seller and the bigger cars were sold mostly for taxi work and as a flagship model. Even the V8 cars were known as model Bs.

    32 fords have quite a competition history in the UK in the thirties - mostly Sporting Trials - but some were raced at Brooklands.
     
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  19. Ddooce
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    030.JPG Here's mine with a friend
     

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  20. 57snrf
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    Clem: Thanks.
    Ddooce: Nice cabriolet. I know that the Dagenham (UK) factory produced 2- and 4-door sedans; but I’m not sure about pickup trucks. Maybe somebody from the UK can confirm?
    Just for kicks, here is a picture of a brochure I purchased in Paris. You can see other pages in Tony Thacker’s “ ’32 Ford Deuce” book. 204 (4).jpg
     
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  21. 57snrf
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    A European '32 Tudor from Sweden
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  22. clem
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    I don't believe that your car is a European Deuce. I would be iinterested to know more about it.
     
  23. chrisp
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    Salut Stef.
    In France there were some delivery bodies built, all coach built from sedan, I have no clue if they were sold to the coachbuilder as chassis and partial body or if they were cut down sedan, the couple I've seen had the roof above the driver build to specs also. As I remember one had the front doors coach built also : no bodyline on them. I'm not talking about cut down cars for gas coupon here. I believe some US rpu/truck cowl made it to Europe for truck production. Everything B400, coupe, roadster was US import.
    Stef you should ask CheaterXav a pic of the delivery made in Paris he had, I will always regret not buying it since I love utes, especially at the fantastic deal he offered it to me, but I had and still have no more room...
    Here's what I have so far for mine
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    Not in the picture is a grille, a 331 hemi and T5, '33 spindles, front and rear split bones.
    It's gona be a suicide door RPU, I already cut down a door to US length.
     
  24. tub1
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    i have a dash out of a english 32 in my 3 window it has two glove boxes it was a little narrow for the body about a inch each side but it looks cool in my opinion ,it is also deeper in the gauge area than a stock US or AUS body but if you look at the side on pic of a english car the A pillar slants back for the doors so that is most probabally why
     
  25. Ddooce
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    57snrf
    I don't know if pickups were built at Dagenham but they were built in the UK at one of Ford's plants as were BB trucks.

    clem
    Thank you for your interest in my car. It was sold new by a dealer in the north west of England. As I mentioned Cabriolets were imported from Canada. However these cars were specially built for the UK and other RHD markets. The chassis is not perforated on the lhs for the steering box, only on the right.
    I know of an identical car that was returned to the US from Argentina also RHD. However the engine firewall is handed just the same as LHD cars! The cowl was not drilled for lights but the reinforcing plate is there. Licence plate mounting is on the right and rumble seat steps are on the left.

    It makes sense that Ford would build RHD cars for export as most of the world then, as today ,drove on the left with steering on the right.

    I guess that may or may not make it a European Deuce.
     
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  26. 57snrf
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    ChrisP, Tubl & Ddooce: thanks for your contribution. Great stuff!
    From the Euro Deuce Facebook page, Bertrand Dubet's chopped/channeled '32 sedan.
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  27. 57snrf
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    Two sedans stylistically (nearly) identical. One is a European model; the other American. (Top photo: Marc "Lowtech" Woltinger)
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  28. 57snrf
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    From the Euro Deuces Facebook page, a Deuce from Belgium. (Photo: Dan Bialik) 545-bialik.jpg
     
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  29. 57snrf
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    Another car from the "Euro Deuces" Facebook page: From Germany. (Source: Four Aces Rod n Roll Shop)
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  30. 57snrf
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    Musician Jeff Beck has owned a number of hot rods over the years. Back in the early '70s, he drove this English '32 sedan (i.e., RHD). Thanks for the picture, Pete Dempsey.
    11156361_10153291283716081_1927735029812189053_n[1].jpg
     
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