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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by choprods, Sep 22, 2005.

  1. kentucky
    Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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    This is fairly common knowledge among us "Ford Guys"...

    75-80 Granada/Marquis spindles bolt on to many early 60's Ford cars, giving you disc brakes and 5 lug bolt pattern. This is the "hot setup" for swapping a V8 in to a 6 cylinder car. This works on Falcons, Comets, Mustangs, Cougars, and I think the intermediate bodies like Fairlanes too. Other donors can be the Mavericks and Comets with disc brakes. 68-73 Mustang discs bolt on too but parts are a little higher. If you do this swap grab everything from the dust cap to the Master Cylinder, including proportioning valve and lines if possible, also the brackets that bolt the hoses to the frame.

    BTW Lincoln Versailles spindles also work but you need a ball joint adapter from mustangsteve.com they also sell tie rod adapters for using 6 cyl steering components.

    If you find a good Granada donor grab the gas pedal and cable assembly, sway bar, and rear end too. I got the leaf springs, hangers, shock mounts and E-brake cables too. The gas tank is an easy swap in 50's trucks.
     
  2. Weed
    Joined: Oct 17, 2004
    Posts: 3

    Weed

    Did you know that a 34 chevy dash slips right into a 30-31 model A like it belongs there? The contour of the dash rail is perfect between the two. Just little spots on either end to close up on the top of the dash.
     
  3. 286merc
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 1,793

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    from Pelham, NH

    8.8" rears are usually expensive in a junkyard if they are on a Ford product. All rear wheel drive Volvos from 86-95 (last of the RWD) use the 8.8, are SAE hardware and take Ford wheels. Ratios are mostly 3.73 or 4.10 and discs are quite common.
    Since Volvos almost never need a rear they are often available super cheap.
    They are the right width for a Model A as well as most other Fords into the 50's. Power handling capability is between the 8" and 9".
     
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  4. Missing Link
    Joined: Sep 9, 2002
    Posts: 865

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    If you are swapping the rear out of your 46 thru 48 ford and looking at a parallel leaf spring set up, 74-75 chevy novas and/or buick apollos fit perfectly. ;)
     
  5. steevil
    Joined: Feb 18, 2004
    Posts: 676

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    jeep Grand Cherokee spare tire is 16"x4½" and has the popular 5 x4½ bolt pattern. No provision for hub cap if you are going for that look.

    1986 EFI ford 302's came equipped with a roller cam but had no valve reliefs in the pistons and came with a poor flowing cylinder head.

    9.2 to 1 compression vs. 9 to 1 compression on later year engines.

    Ford Ranger 7.5/ 8.8 axles are offset to the passenger side. This would be a great axle to use should you need to offset your engine for steering clearance.
     
  6. Ayers Garage
    Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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    It's more than just Nova and Apollo....

    Remember this N.O.V.A. The letters stand for the cars you can get parts out of.

    Nova
    Omega
    Ventura
    Apollo

    All 4 are interchangable as far as mechanical parts go. In my area, Nova parts are expensive, but the rest of the O.V.A stuff is give away cheap because the cars aren't as popular.
     
  7. Most rear paralell leaf kits made-are basically selling you, a set of 67 68 Dodge PU frt springs........5-7 leaves- too much spring and too many leafs USUALLY-
    The Front springs from a Dodge Ramcharger[78-79] are available in a MONOleaf and are 2-1/2 wide and 46" eye to eye....Virtually no arch......[needing no blocks:p ]
    Same as the ones the "kits" are:D BUT- the are flatter and dont need a leaf taken out to reduce the ass hammering the "kit" springs give ya!

    another choice is to use front springs from a 4x4 Blazer[fullsize][ say 73-87] =really flat= and about same dimensions.

    On a 48 chevy sedan once -I used the rear leafs from a 76Datsun pickup on the rear of it -and it sat low ,with no lowering blocks needed.

    For short shocks on a Model A with Early Ford I-beam front -I usually use 73-up Chevy pickup front shocks-

    They are real short and are about the right rate of rebound to control roll well.
     
  8. klazurfer
    Joined: Nov 21, 2001
    Posts: 1,596

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    :) Guide & BLC headlamps for cars & Trucks have the same headlamp Bezel as 49-59 Harley Davidson.( Incase you have a headlamp missing a bezel )
     
  9. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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  10. N0-Squablow- I made some frt brackets from C channel and cut a 1-1/2" hole thru rail at rear and welded a pipe in to hold the upper rear shackle bushing....& then used a Nova rear end.........
     
  11. seymour
    Joined: Jan 22, 2004
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    from PNW

    1957 Chevy front yoke fits the 1957-up Ford driveshaft and is splined to fit the 1949-1956 Ford tranny.
     
  12. old beet
    Joined: Sep 25, 2002
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    When I put a 390GT and toploader in my 56 Merc I think I used a stock 57 Chev driveshaft, yoke and all..............OLDBEET
     
  13. I'm lovin' this post, so B.T.T.Frickin'.T.
     
  14. old beet
    Joined: Sep 25, 2002
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    Off the wall but, K-MEMBER replaced the rear axle in his 50 Stude. Used a 8in Ford and the stock driveshaft and U-joint worked. Go figger!..........OLDBEET
     
  15. HA!! Klaz, I'm missing TWO!.....but that was how I got them cheap! Thanks for that one!
     
  16. THIS IS A GR8T THREAD!

    thought it should come back up and get some new life and info.

    come on gurus and keepers of car secrets
     
  17. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
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    Was told the exterior bed light on 67-72 Chevy trucks is the same as the 67-69 RS reverse lights.
     
  18. A friend of mine has built a 35 Ford coupe and 47 Ford coupe using Ford Courier trucks for parts such as the rear springs and shackles and all of the heater components (box, ducts, controls)
     
  19. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 18,850

    49ratfink
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    from California

    80's toyota 4wd, 60's - 80's Datsun trucks - chevrolet passenger cars up to 48 and chevrolet 6 nut trucks all have the same 6 lug bolt pattern.
     
  20. atch
    Joined: Sep 3, 2002
    Posts: 5,640

    atch
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    i am still subscribed to this thread from when it first went around. it was good then and still is.

    so; bttt...
     
  21. Little Wing
    Joined: Nov 25, 2005
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    Little Wing
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    from Northeast

    41 Lincoln Door buttons are the same as the 42-48 Trunk Buttons
     
  22. rc.grimes
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
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    rc.grimes
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    from Edmond, OK

    For the guys with 55-67 Chevy passenger cars. I pull the disc brake spindles from the 68-70 Caprice/Impala. Bolt on swap to the earlier car. Calipers are $11.99 loaded ("new"). Rotors are thick as hell so I have them turned to clean them up. Still has the 4 3/4 pattern and makes a world of difference.

    Another Impala swap. On a friends 67 (and another 65) i swapped the complete master cylinder and booster from a 2wd S10. Had to drive the studs out that held the original pedal assembly but this bolted right in it's place. Threaded the pushrod for the clevis and away it went. Haven't tried it on an earlier car but it worked like a charm on the 65&67.

    Did I mention both swaps were dirt cheap?
     
  23. Not positive about this, but when looking up part numbers for rocker arms for a big block Chevy ,they had the same part numbers as a big block Ford, 429-460.So I think they interchange?
     
  24. Ranunculous
    Joined: Nov 30, 2007
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    Early 80's AMC Spirit radiators work great for 40's trucks.Used one for my M-5 Stude pickup and it was almost a drop in.
    Same for mid 60's Mustang gas tanks.Yeah,I know they're ultra-desirable for you Ford fellers,but once in a while you find a totalled out car and bingo! The tank drops right between the frame rails.
    Studebaker had a thing about using certain trim parts and stuff for years....

    By the way,this is a great thread!
     
  25. 567trishop
    Joined: Mar 3, 2008
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    567trishop
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    from Australia

    don't fit the W
     
  26. 567trishop
    Joined: Mar 3, 2008
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    567trishop
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    from Australia

  27. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    Yes the doors are BUT the hinges are not/ You'll need either the whole door and body parts from the A cab or the T body(26-27 Coupe and Tudor have the same doors) so the swap is a doer without too much work.
     
  28. Dodge used the same wrap around windshield on many truck models from 1955 to 1972ish. Dodge trucks 1955 second series to 1960. Town sedans and panels from 55-68. Many of the 1 ton, 2 ton, 5 ton large trucks plus tractors including the 1972 Bighorn diesel.
     
  29. 57 Ford and 66 Falcon/ Ranchero headlight buckets are the same.

    You can put a 59 Ranchero gas tank in a 57-8 Ranchero/ Wagon using the straps and filler.

    A 58 Ford steering box is way better than a 57, and bolts in.

    Later Ford and Merc wagon rear brakes including drums and backing plates are a direct bolt on for 57-59 Ford wagons and Ranchero.
    The drums used to be unobtanium for the original application.
    Now they make them, but these brakes are bigger, better, and still cheaper.

    Ford Maverick brake parts fit a shoebox Ford. I have not done this, but I'm pretty sure its spot on.
     
  30. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
    Posts: 6,021

    Brad54
    Member
    from Atl Ga

    I'll add a useless bit o' trivia:
    If you've got a '57 Chevy 150 and want to keep the plain jane steering wheel, but want something a little smaller, a '60-'66 Chevy truck wheel is the same, but is 2 inches smaller in diameter.
    That's for the other guy in the country running a full cage and the stock steering wheel in his '57 150.

    A couple years of Ford Ranger trucks came with aluminum master cylinders that look exactly like regular steel 2 chamber master cylinders, but weigh ounces compared to several pounds. Look a helluva lot better than a late model aluminum and plastic piece.

    A lot of early manual-adjust brakes can be converted to self-adjust with kits that are on the market. For instance, '60s Buicks run 12-inch drums front and rear, so the hardware kits can be adapted to '50s Buicks. '55-'57 Chevys have 11-inch drums, and kits are available for them. '60-'64(?) Chevy trucks had manual adjust brakes, but the later ones had self-adjust, and the conversion can be done with a brake hardware kit from them. Should be the same type of situation for '57-up Ford rear ends, Mopars, etc.

    -Brad
     

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