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Projects the chocolate & cheese roadster

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by zibo, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Noland
    Joined: Oct 16, 2007
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    looking great. I reallly like some of your Ideas. Headlight treatment look awesome. I really like the Idea of using the AA frame too. Good luck
     
  2. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
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    Go Man Go! Now you just need to teach those kids how to weld and spray primer & you have free shop labor.........Oh wait.....Is that why my pops showed me how to spray primer at the age of 4?
     
  3. Squablow
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    I was wondering if that was a Ween reference. Maybe I'll sell you a chicken, with poison interlaced with the meat. Build looks good.
     
  4. DYNODANNY
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    Freakin AWSOME Travis. you did it again. Good luck and hope you make some good deserved money.
     
  5. 41 Dave
    Joined: May 23, 2005
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    Travis, Looks like you more than achieved you goal. Will you be using the column shift or one of your rad shifter like in "Chief" ? My vote would be for the multi-lever shifter. It is just wild ! Wish you all the best of luck at the Big 3 !

    Dave
     
  6. So did it sell or are you extending this build thread?
     
  7. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
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    zibo
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    from dago ca

    well I got a bunch of trade offers,
    and some lowball offers,
    and one decent extended payplan offer,
    but no money yet!

    there's a bunch of overpriced stuff out here.
    a 29 sedan body only is $4500

    I did bring a bunch of good stuff to the swap meet,
    and its definitely helped offset the cost of keeping it.

    one more day at the swap.
    bummer my phones not good at posting pics!

    TP
     
  8. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
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    zibo
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    from dago ca

    Finally I'm able to function again.
    Here's what happened over the weekend.

    Friday

    The swap entry was either before 1pm or after 4pm.
    I had no parts piled up,
    and the roadster was barely in pulling form,
    so I was shooting for the 4pm window.
    That gave me a couple hours to work in the morning.
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    I had cut out a section of rust to get some access to a bolt hole,
    (no pic of the cutout)
    so I did a quick and ugly patch at least to fill up the gap.
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    Yeah it's rough but if you saw the gap it did help.
    Later on I'll hammer out or find the patch panel for the front part on both sides.

    The friend Spinner who had helped out earlier came by and offered more help.
    I showed him the list,
    and he picked the hardest thing to do,
    the decklid.
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    By noonish he had the frame all set up.

    Another friend Mike had dropped by to lend a hand,
    and threw on the intake/carbs/dizzy and the tow bar...
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    He also cut a '36 driveshaft so I could mock it up later.
    This saved me a bunch of time to get some other stuff done.
    Thanks Mike!
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    I also made a little grille support out of an old A brake rod.

    Meanwhile I tackled the column mount on the dash.
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    That upward swoop on the passenger side was cool,
    but didn't work with the '35 housing.
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    To make it easy I just tried to match the other side.
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    The steel is thicker like 1/16+ so its easy to work with.
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    I was lucky to get this far along with the time available.
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    It still needs work but at least the columns not bouncing around.

    TP
     
  9. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
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    zibo
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    from dago ca

    With the day quickly passing by,
    most of the things on the list were checked off.
    -headlight bar lowered 1" and welded up
    -doors tacked on
    -keyway found for steering wheel
    -dents pounded out a bit
    -skin was welded to decklid frame
    A bunch of little things.

    By 245 it was time to push it out.
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    There's 2 steps up to the shop,
    and it rolled out easily with no ramps!
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    However it was obvious the springs would need some clamps!
    Doh!
    Spinner took care of the front ones,
    while I got some parts piled up.
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    custom rear
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    I can't believe Spinner was able to do most of this decklid in 4 hours.
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    Still needs some obvious hammering and spacing,
    but it's a great start.
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    While waiting for the wife and kids to come by,
    I had a respectable pile of stuff to get rid of.

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    Finally they arrived and acted as the escort vehicle.

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    We made it there about 430 which was very surprising.
    By 830 I had 4 red beers and 2 shots!
    After all that rushing it was a strange feeling to be able to hang out.

    TP
     
  10. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
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    zibo
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    from dago ca

    Well after all that thrashing,
    it didn't sell.
    Tons of interest though,
    a few trade options and some extended payment plans.

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    It was a tough show.
    Many big ticket items that seemed like good deals,
    and many roaches that were overpriced!
    There was a 29 sedan body for $4500. body only!
    Many things that would have been scooped up in years past for alot more lingered.

    I sold my stuff really cheap.
    Most was stuff that I'll never use,
    so it streamlined my parts stash to focus more on what I build.

    Almost everything I brought friday sold saturday,
    so I brought more stuff to sell sunday morning.
    It felt good to unload some weight and make a little dough.

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    On Saturday I brought out the roadster pickup-Chief.
    I haven't sold at a swap meet for years,
    and this was the first big car show/outing since GNRS last year,
    which was the only one for a long time since moving to SD.

    The thing about swaps is it brings out a much more varied selection of people.
    I met some Hambers I knew only online,
    Adam M. from canada and Juggler/Andrew from England to name,
    and many others I haven't seen in a long time.
    It's great to hang out with like minded people!

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    One of the biggest surprises was this guy,
    Jack (Jackie) Howerton.
    He saw Chief right away and was pouring over it.
    Not many people notice some of the obscure details,
    but he clued into many without any help.
    He even brought some friends back over later in the day.
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    Besides being a Sprint car champ,
    he hand built this thing.
    His friends made sure I knew it!
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    It was one of those curses that people like me get.
    We might not get the big bucks,
    but the acknowledgement and conversation from someone like that,
    really stokes the fire to continue on.

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    Later on Sunday,
    Shinya and his crew came by the shop and that was really cool.

    Another good thing was I didn't go on a rampage buying stuff.

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    head gaskets and gas can

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    29 headlight bar and 40 dash

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    models for the kids

    So all in all it was a good 2 weeks.

    TP
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2012
  11. I see you discovered that it's easier to roll a car versus moving several truckloads of parts whenever you need space in the garage!

    I like how the T is proportioned and how you've managed to clean up the property and make both look great.
     
  12. general gow
    Joined: Feb 5, 2003
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    i'm kinda surprised it didn't sell. but maybe it's in that limbo state where most peoples' imaginations can't see past the price tag. i'm sure it's in good hands and the more work you do the closer it will get to others' vision thresholds.
     
  13. TexasSpeed
    Joined: Nov 2, 2009
    Posts: 4,618

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    I'm surprised it didn't sell too.

    That's a great looking T. I wish I had started with something more complete like that. Perfect beginner entry project. The proportions are spot on, the wheelbase suits the T just right.. Not everyone can pull that off.


    iPhone - TJJ app
     
  14. So I guess the big question is now what ?
     
  15. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
    Posts: 2,346

    zibo
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    from dago ca

    There was a guy that said "oh the exhaust isn't even finished"
    and I had to tell him, "if that's your worry than this is probably not the car for you!"
    In that sense,
    my best potential buyer would be someone I could finish it for.

    It's tricky,
    you see a body for a couple thousand,
    and people don't seem to realize it needs the frame/running gear.
    I admit I started high though,
    but there was that immediacy of the work that was just done,
    and the knowledge of what it could be (to me) relatively quickly,
    so it is hard to just give it away.

    I am really happy that its at this stage,
    so it will be a good project to continue on.
    Like wingnutz said way better than trying to visualize a pile of parts!



    Thanks guys!

    TP
     
  16. need louvers ?
    Joined: Nov 20, 2008
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    Cool build Travis!

    You know whats cool about having a partially completed roller around the shop?
    Three things:

    1) Suddenly you aren't tripping over all of the little bits and pieces that were laying there a week ago.

    2) It's easy to move if you have to!

    3) every time I do one, someone comes in to pick up their louvers and says "That's cool, who's is that" which generally leads to it becoming theirs! And I usually get to finish it up too...

    Win, win, win.
     
  17. n847
    Joined: Apr 22, 2010
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    Build it...Looking cool!
     
  18. koolkemp
    Joined: May 7, 2004
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    I cant believe how quickly this came together Travis !! Even more unbelievable is that it didnt sell.....but at least we will get to see work progress on it:D Tow it back next year with the coupe as a runner..with the speed you get things done that shouldnt be a problem...wow and great job are all I can say!
     
  19. general gow
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    general gow
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    DEFINITELY don't give it away. someone will come along who appreciates it. or, you'll get to finish it and make even more on it.

     
  20. Pete
    Joined: Mar 8, 2001
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    Zibo,

    I cant believe you still have that green plate left!!! Is that the same material you used to make the Flathead caddy bell housing!!!


    The little orange roadster looks cool, im sure you wont have any trouble selling it.

    Pete-
     
  21. 41 Dave
    Joined: May 23, 2005
    Posts: 2,594

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    Travis, Looks like a good way to end this Chapter of the "Chocolate and Cheese Special'. I know I am not the only one that will be looking forward to the next chapter.

    Dave
     
  22. attitudor
    Joined: Sep 28, 2004
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    from Finland

    Just push another 2 weeks and you'll have a driver! :)
     
  23. Travis, always inspiring, and this build illustrates your ability to embrace the 'good' and make something 'desirable' with it, something few can percieve, let alone build.

    Keep at it, with your creative vision, motivation, skills and talents that car will be so much more than a random assortment of bits, and you'll be doing donuts in no time:D:)

    Cheers,

    Drewfus:)
     
  24. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
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    zibo
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    from dago ca

    Thanks guys for all the interest!

    Drewfus,
    now that the car has it's rough shape,
    it will be fun to do some of the detail work.

    I feel like I'm wasting time this week with no deadline.
    I've got to play catch up with all the stuff I let slide the past couple weeks!
    I'm shooting for possibly Santa Maria!

    Pete,
    that 1/4" green plate is common in the boat repair.
    It is the same plate just not from the same batch!

    TP
     
  25. 41 Dave
    Joined: May 23, 2005
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    Travis, Now you are getting me excited that this little '27 "T" may be a runner by May ! Go, Travis GO ! Will be standing by when you get time to update on this build. Wish you all the best.

    Dave
     
  26. Matthew
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    Matthew
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    from Burien, WA

    Exhaust is over-rated, LOL... that car is gonna be great...
     
  27. RAVENS29
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    that were all the good parts were- your place!
     
  28. 41 Dave
    Joined: May 23, 2005
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    41 Dave
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    Travis, Any updates on the roadster ? You know you got us hooked.

    Dave
     
  29. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
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    zibo
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    from dago ca

    It looks like the Chocolate & Cheese Roadster is going to North Carolina.
    A Hamber - Blackjak71 - took the bait!

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    To seal the deal,
    Dan wanted a running engine.
    So the busted mock up engine was pulled.
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    Nice to work in the grass,
    you just move the car not the engine.
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    There happened to be a good running flathead in our 40 coupe.
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    Time to put the kids to work again.
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    These are long haired BOYS!

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    I've waited 10 years for this moment!
    Jaxon and Jakob really powered through the removal.

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    The kids are really into models,
    and it has helped them identify the different parts.
    We joked that the real stuff is alot heavier.

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    Heart transplant almost complete.

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    The flathead rides tight on the firewall where the fuel pump would go,
    so there are a couple intake options i'll have to figure out.
    The newer Sharp has the forward 8ba oil fill,
    the earlier Fenton has the rear oil fill.

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    I'm figuring out what to do with the 40.
    I've got the perfect flathead for it,
    but I'm leaning toward a 70's resto-rod build for it using a 302.
    Yeah yeah it's a tough decision,
    I just really want to use it as a daily driver.

    Anyway more to come!

    TP
     

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