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The Banger Rolls Into 2012 January Baner Meet.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by telecustom, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. telecustom
    Joined: Feb 17, 2009
    Posts: 336

    telecustom
    Member
    from Langey, BC

    For those who can't wait..
    Hope you don't mind. :D


    Crazydaddyo:

    Here is the banger link list .


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498



    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.billsbangers.com

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...=470853&page=6

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...84#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://www.centuryperformance.com/tu...e-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...61#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculatorfin.jsp


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?...icdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/T...e-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...470853&page=10

    Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.

    If anyone knows of more, please post them.
     
  2. telecustom
    Joined: Feb 17, 2009
    Posts: 336

    telecustom
    Member
    from Langey, BC

    oops need a little edit in the title..
     
  3. Santa brought me some banger goodies. :cool:

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    Last edited: Jan 2, 2012
  4. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
    Posts: 3,337

    Stovebolt
    Member

    Hey whatyaknow

    2 January banger threads going at the mo ;-)

    thanks for putting the links up
     

  5. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
    Posts: 3,337

    Stovebolt
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  6. telecustom
    Joined: Feb 17, 2009
    Posts: 336

    telecustom
    Member
    from Langey, BC

    oh you did start one sweet I didn't find it and dec was still popping up..
     
  7. Been having fun playing with the Mallory YA distibutor and have it ready for cleaning. The cap and condensor looked like they had been sandblasted... then I remembered that the unit came off an engine that ran a grain elevator :)

    I looked for instructions on the Mallory site, but only found sheets that went back to the mid 50's (maybe I didn't look hard enough)- any idea where I might get a set of instructions?

    Thanks and Happy New Year, Bill
     
  8. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,209

    RussTee
    Member

    now we got two Jan bangermeets.
    another umder Its Jan 1new years day ...... come on banger boys its time to play.
     
  9. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,209

    RussTee
    Member

    Looking good Jeff so hows prgress
     
  10. TV
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
    Posts: 1,451

    TV
    Member

    Well i posted this on the other January thd., so I guess I will post it here also. We will be taking our blown race A motor to dyno very soon, going to up the boost and see what she can do? It is a 5 main engine and pulled a lot of HP with very little boost last year. I will keep you posted when we do it.--TV
     
  11. callcoy
    Joined: Aug 31, 2008
    Posts: 133

    callcoy
    Member

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    I thought that you Banger guys would like to hear about a &#8220;Tech Tour&#8221; I was able to put together four weeks ago. Our club the Sonoma A&#8217;s hosted this year&#8217;s MAFCA Awards Banquet in Santa Rosa CA, a four day event . MAFCA , the Model A Club of America holds their annual Membership Meeting in different locations each year. California has a law that states a membership meeting has to have 51% of the membership present in order to be called a membership meeting. So only in our State the event is called an Awards Banquet. The event was over Saturday evening, the 3rd, Sunday Dec. 4<SUP>th</SUP> was to be a travel day so we contacted the attendee&#8217;s and offered them a special tour if they could stay over another day.
    I have provided a link to Photobucket where there are approx. 130 photos. Many of you will never have an opportunity to visit these locations let alone in one day. We were very fortunate to have the individuals open their shops and donate their Sunday to let a group of 40 car lovers prowl around their shops and cars.
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    The first stop was Vern Tardel&#8217;s Flathead Ranch, a favorite of Ryan Cochran and 1950&#8217;s traditional Hot Rod enthusiasts. Vern opened his shop to our group and answered any and all questions, the group scattered like a covey of quail, just too much to see, and too many questions ,a real enthusiast&#8217;s overload. Vern spent time explaining 39 trans conversions, V-8 clutches, F-1/F-100 steering mods and Hyd. Brake systems for the Model A crowd. He added a couple of his old friends Kent Fuller and Ed Bingelli. Kent is the well known FED car builder from the late 50&#8217;s and 60&#8217;s, built some many of the famous dragsters of the period, Greer, Black and Prudomne, Tommy Ivo&#8217;s cars, The Magwinder , The Shark Car etc. (http;//www.standard1320.com) Ed was a well known speed shop owner (Bing&#8217;s) who built and raced a giant killer flathead powered F/Gas Willys. Between the three of them we could have sent a couple of days talking and listening to the history of earlier drag racing.
    Vern had a number of 32 roadsters and a A roadster under construction for the group to view along with his Bonneville blown flathead roadster. His yard has a never ending collection of early Ford iron, several attendee&#8217;s left with new accucesions. The many photos really don&#8217;t do justice to what is there to see. By the way, Ed Pugh shown in the pictures makes the snazzy thermo housing/outlet for A/B type engines along with the direct A to T-5 trans adapter.
    We then traveled down to visit Steve Nelson&#8217;s Ranch, Steve set the world&#8217;s record this Aug. at Speed Week up at Bonneville. He has a drop tank Lakester powered by an overhead converted Model B engine on alcohol. He now holds the record at 194.750, made a pass at 196+ mph. Steve has been collecting, building and racing cars at Bonneville for years. Has built his and hers T speedsters and several other T&#8217;s and an A that they use for touring. Thru the years he has collection a number of overheads for both T&#8217;s and A&#8217;s along with an assortment of related speed equipment which was on display.
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    Steve invited friend and fellow Bonneville Racer, Greg Martinez who races a drop tank Lakester but with a blown flathead on both gas and fuel. Greg holds the worlds records in both gas at 157.098 and fuel at 153.333. We really owe Greg a big thank you as he lives in San Francisco where he keeps the car, but stores his trailer an hour and a half away in Sonoma. He spent approx 6 hours transporting in order to make his car available for viewing. Greg has a massive collection of Model A/B speed equipment and was able to display a portion of his holdings at Steve Nelson&#8217;s. Both Steve and Greg were free with their time and answered every question fielded.
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    We broke for lunch of gourmet hand prepared hot dogs with ranch reserve beans, served with a sparkling beverage. We were fortunate as the weather had warmed up and seating was out of doors in front of Steve service station. Steve Straw, the No. Cal. sparkplug for F.A.S.T. the 4-Banger performance and hill climb national club, explained what the group was all about and answered questions about membership and meetings. Both Steve Nelson and Greg Martinez are members.
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    After lunch Dema Elgin conducted a seminar on the compatibility of improvements to the Model A engine. Dema a college instructor of internal combustion technology for three decades is a cam profiler and grinder to the vintage, NASCAR, aircraft and racing interests. His discussion was well received and opened some new doors to those in attendance.
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    The Tech Tour was used as a vehicle to raise funds for the Model A Museum, thru the Model A Ford Foundation Inc. or MAFFI. They are scheduled to break ground in the spring on the Gilmore Car Museum Campus. I am not able to title all the photos but did label a few of those of individuals that contributed and donated their time to make this a great success. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

    http://s1119.photobucket.com/albums/k621/callcoy/Tech Tour/


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  12. Slow but steady mate. I was telling Gonk i wasnt getting much done, and he told me to settle down, as ive only had it a year, and have got a lot done.
    Im pulling the banger soon for a pulldown. :)
    Cant put the finned covers on without a fresh coat of paint as well.


    Callcoy, thanks for your post and pics.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2012
  13. NORSON
    Joined: Jan 19, 2009
    Posts: 466

    NORSON
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I looked for the other January thread but couldn't find it. Which are we using or are we going to consolidate them? What is the other thread? Thanks Norm
     
  14. A Rodder
    Joined: Jul 13, 2008
    Posts: 2,477

    A Rodder
    Member

    I did a Search and couldn't find really what I was looking for.

    My model A Thread is here http://jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626730


    My plans are changing a little. I have been going towards getting the Coupe back on the road with the banger power for this summer and then moving into a 32 railed chassis with a 312 Tri Powered Y block.


    However I think that may be a year or two down the road so I want to spend a little on the banger to get it to pull a little harder and look a little cooler.


    The car runs now, I put maybe 50 miles on it last summer before I tore into the car. No rattles, or smoke, but not built by anymeans either. It is stock.


    I am going to limit my budget to $1000 tops. That eliminates an overhead conversion.

    I am thinking a high compression head, downdraft intake with a 97, one of Matt's lake headers, Mallory dual point distributor with mechanical advance.
    I happen to have a 97 that is good, don't really know about two of them? And a couple of the finned aluminum pieces here and there.


    Can you guys give me some insight or guidence on what direction, or how I should proceed.






    EDIT I just put this on the OTHER banger thread, I see that is the one that is moving forward, sorry
     

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